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From: Paul Moore <paul@paul-moore.com>
To: Song Liu <song@kernel.org>
Cc: Blaise Boscaccy <bboscaccy@linux.microsoft.com>,
	James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
	 "Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
	 Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
	 Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>,
	Martin KaFai Lau <martin.lau@linux.dev>,
	 Eduard Zingerman <eddyz87@gmail.com>,
	Yonghong Song <yonghong.song@linux.dev>,
	 KP Singh <kpsingh@kernel.org>,
	Stanislav Fomichev <sdf@fomichev.me>, Hao Luo <haoluo@google.com>,
	 Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org>,
	Stephen Smalley <stephen.smalley.work@gmail.com>,
	 Ondrej Mosnacek <omosnace@redhat.com>,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
	 linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, bpf@vger.kernel.org,
	selinux@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] security: Propagate universal pointer data in bpf hooks
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2025 10:57:24 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHC9VhS8ST6ODB2pFJTMK4qu8FdM2J=6qEbB=XGxo2ZAZgo1Aw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPhsuW7=uALYiLfKfApvSG0V+RV+M20w5x3myTZVLNRyYnBFnQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Feb 26, 2025 at 2:06 AM Song Liu <song@kernel.org> wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 25, 2025 at 4:31 PM Blaise Boscaccy
> <bboscaccy@linux.microsoft.com> wrote:
> >
> > Certain bpf syscall subcommands are available for usage from both
> > userspace and the kernel. LSM modules or eBPF gatekeeper programs may
> > need to take a different course of action depending on whether or not
> > a BPF syscall originated from the kernel or userspace.
> >
> > Additionally, some of the bpf_attr struct fields contain pointers to
> > arbitrary memory. Currently the functionality to determine whether or
> > not a pointer refers to kernel memory or userspace memory is exposed
> > to the bpf verifier, but that information is missing from various LSM
> > hooks.
> >
> > Here we augment the LSM hooks to provide this data, by simply passing
> > the corresponding universal pointer in any hook that contains already
> > contains a bpf_attr struct that corresponds to a subcommand that may
> > be called from the kernel.
>
> I think this information is useful for LSM hooks.

I've only looked at it quickly, but so far it seems reasonable.  I'm
going to take a closer look today.

> Question: Do we need a full bpfptr_t for these hooks, or just a boolean
> "is_kernel or not"?

I may be misunderstanding the patch, but what if we swapped the
existing 'union bpf_attr' parameter for a 'bpfptr_t' parameter?  That
would allow for both kernel and usermode pointers, complete with a
'is_kernel' flag; or am I missing something (likely)?

-- 
paul-moore.com

  reply	other threads:[~2025-02-26 15:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-02-26  0:30 [PATCH 0/1] security: Propagate universal pointer data in bpf hooks Blaise Boscaccy
2025-02-26  0:30 ` [PATCH 1/1] " Blaise Boscaccy
2025-02-26  7:06   ` Song Liu
2025-02-26 15:57     ` Paul Moore [this message]
2025-02-26 19:40       ` Blaise Boscaccy
2025-02-26 16:00     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-02-26 19:21       ` Blaise Boscaccy
2025-02-26 22:02       ` Song Liu

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