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From: "Alexis Lothoré" <alexis.lothore@bootlin.com>
To: "Alexei Starovoitov" <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>,
	"Andrey Konovalov" <andreyknvl@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC bpf-next 1/8] kasan: expose generic kasan helpers
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2026 16:27:19 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DHY1WD3EUHEE.2R8PQXVKW6FO4@bootlin.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAADnVQKuptG_opA12O=Xb9_+cHf3f=ycAZdfUp17P2HBYQzdsg@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon Apr 20, 2026 at 12:51 AM CEST, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 19, 2026 at 2:49 PM Andrey Konovalov <andreyknvl@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 14, 2026 at 5:58 PM Alexei Starovoitov
>> <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > I think we're talking past each other.
>> > We're not interested in KASAN_SW_TAGS or KASAN_HW_TAGS.
>> > We're not going to modify arm64 JIT at all.
>> >
>> > This is purely KASAN_GENRIC and only on x86-64.
>> > JIT will emit exactly what compilers emit for generic
>> > which is __asan_load/store. This is as stable ABI as it can get
>> > and we don't want to deviate from it.
>>
>> OK, I supposed that's fair. You did throw me off point with your
>> performance comment. But if you decide to add SW_TAGS support at some
>> point, I think this discussion needs to be revisited.
>>
>> But please add a comment saying that those functions are only exposed
>> for BPF JIT and they are not supposed to be used by other parts of the
>> kernel. And in case you do end up adding a new config option, guard
>> the public declarations by a corresponding ifdef.
>
> I feel concerns of misuse are overblown.
> Being in include/linux/kasan.h doesn't make them free-for-all
> all of a sudden, but if you prefer we can just copy paste:
> +void __asan_load1(void *p);
> +void __asan_store1(void *p);
> into bpf_jit_comp.c

That's actually what I initially went with when working on this, but it
did look a bit fragile, and suspected that I would rather be asked to export
them properly through a dedicated header. I'm fine with putting back the
manual declarations in jit comp, though.

>
>> > The goal here is to find bugs in the verifier.
>> > If something got past it, that shouldn't have,
>> > kasan generic on x86-64 is enough.
>>
>> FWIW, I suspect HW_TAGS KASAN already just works with JITed BPF code.
>
> Ohh. Good point. Looks like modern arm64 cpus in public clouds
> don't have that enabled, so one would need pixel phone to
> catch verifier bugs via hw_tags.
> So we still need this x86-specific jit kasan.
> I guess eventually it can be removed when hw_tags support is widespread.




-- 
Alexis Lothoré, Bootlin
Embedded Linux and Kernel engineering
https://bootlin.com


  reply	other threads:[~2026-04-20 14:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-13 18:28 [PATCH RFC bpf-next 0/8] bpf: add support for KASAN checks in JITed programs Alexis Lothoré (eBPF Foundation)
2026-04-13 18:28 ` [PATCH RFC bpf-next 1/8] kasan: expose generic kasan helpers Alexis Lothoré (eBPF Foundation)
2026-04-13 22:19   ` Andrey Konovalov
2026-04-14 13:12     ` Alexis Lothoré
2026-04-14 14:36       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-04-14 15:10         ` Andrey Konovalov
2026-04-14 15:58           ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-04-19 21:48             ` Andrey Konovalov
2026-04-19 22:51               ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-04-20 14:27                 ` Alexis Lothoré [this message]
2026-04-14 18:41         ` Alexis Lothoré
2026-04-14 19:16           ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-04-14 20:44             ` Alexis Lothoré
2026-04-13 18:28 ` [PATCH RFC bpf-next 2/8] bpf: mark instructions accessing program stack Alexis Lothoré (eBPF Foundation)
2026-04-13 18:28 ` [PATCH RFC bpf-next 3/8] bpf: add BPF_JIT_KASAN for KASAN instrumentation of JITed programs Alexis Lothoré (eBPF Foundation)
2026-04-13 22:20   ` Andrey Konovalov
2026-04-14 13:24     ` Alexis Lothoré
2026-04-14 14:38       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-04-13 18:28 ` [PATCH RFC bpf-next 4/8] bpf, x86: add helper to emit kasan checks in x86 " Alexis Lothoré (eBPF Foundation)
2026-04-13 18:28 ` [PATCH RFC bpf-next 5/8] bpf, x86: emit KASAN checks into " Alexis Lothoré (eBPF Foundation)
2026-04-13 18:28 ` [PATCH RFC bpf-next 6/8] selftests/bpf: do not run verifier JIT tests when BPF_JIT_KASAN is enabled Alexis Lothoré (eBPF Foundation)
2026-04-13 18:28 ` [PATCH RFC bpf-next 7/8] bpf, x86: enable KASAN for JITed programs on x86 Alexis Lothoré (eBPF Foundation)
2026-04-13 18:28 ` [PATCH RFC bpf-next 8/8] selftests/bpf: add tests to validate KASAN on JIT programs Alexis Lothoré (eBPF Foundation)
2026-04-13 22:20   ` Andrey Konovalov
2026-04-14 13:43     ` Alexis Lothoré

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