From: "Alexei Starovoitov" <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>
To: "Anton Protopopov" <a.s.protopopov@gmail.com>,
"bpf" <bpf@vger.kernel.org>,
"lsm" <linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org>,
"netdev" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
"Alexei Starovoitov" <ast@kernel.org>,
"Daniel Borkmann" <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
"Andrii Nakryiko" <andrii@kernel.org>,
"Eduard Zingerman" <eddyz87@gmail.com>,
"Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi" <memxor@gmail.com>,
"KP Singh" <kpsingh@kernel.org>,
"Matt Bobrowski" <matt@bobrowski.net>,
"John Fastabend" <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
"Christian Brauner" <brauner@kernel.org>,
"Paul Moore" <paul@paul-moore.com>,
"Linus Torvalds" <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
"Eric Dumazet" <edumazet@google.com>,
"Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>,
"Paolo Abeni" <pabeni@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next 0/7] Add new way to add BPF LSM hooks
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2026 11:07:38 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <DL514LM5TA6V.IOW7P2WM70BE@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260831110934.241898-1-a.s.protopopov@gmail.com>
On Mon Aug 31, 2026 at 4:09 AM PDT, Anton Protopopov wrote:
> The BPF LSM programs are allowed to attach to LSM hooks. This enables
> operators to mitigate known bugs without a need to reboot or livepatch
> machines. BPF has shown very useful to create such runtime policies.
> However, many APIs and parts of kernel aren't covered by existing LSM
> hooks and this would be beneficial to extend the coverage.
>
> To simplify the process of adding new hooks this patch series enables
> BPF to attach policy programs to hooks defined outside of the
> official LSM list.
>
> One of the reasons to add a new mechanism is that in order to add a
> new LSM hook an implementation, at least one in-kernel LSM must be
> added, such as SELinux or AppArmor, and BPF is specifically not
> considered as a reference implementation [1]. This is, however, not
> feasible for the use cases and capabilities covered by BPF LSMs,
> which are not directly comparable to those of traditional LSMs.
This is no go.
bpf-lsm can attach to lsm hooks, but the machinery has nothing to
do with LSM. bpf-lsm is exactly the same as bpf-mod-ret.
So calling everything LSM is actively misleading and wrong.
Patch 1 starts this misleading naming convention
and then later patches add fake LSM hooks. Sorry, but no.
pw-bot: cr
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-09-02 18:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-08-31 11:09 [PATCH bpf-next 0/7] Add new way to add BPF LSM hooks Anton Protopopov
2026-08-31 11:09 ` [PATCH bpf-next 1/7] bpf: Allow BPF LSM programs to attach to more hooks Anton Protopopov
2026-08-31 11:50 ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-08-31 12:48 ` Anton Protopopov
2026-08-31 22:42 ` Paul Moore
2026-09-01 13:36 ` Anton Protopopov
2026-09-01 22:15 ` Paul Moore
2026-09-02 15:31 ` Anton Protopopov
2026-09-02 19:43 ` Paul Moore
2026-08-31 11:09 ` [PATCH bpf-next 2/7] net, bpf: Add a generic netlink hook on msg_rcv Anton Protopopov
2026-08-31 12:07 ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-08-31 13:22 ` Anton Protopopov
2026-08-31 11:09 ` [PATCH bpf-next 3/7] net, bpf: Add bpf hooks for ethtool control path Anton Protopopov
2026-09-01 10:59 ` sashiko-bot
2026-08-31 11:09 ` [PATCH bpf-next 4/7] selftests/bpf: Extract some helpers from tests to the netlink library Anton Protopopov
2026-08-31 11:09 ` [PATCH bpf-next 5/7] selftests/bpf: Add netdevsim helper library Anton Protopopov
2026-08-31 12:07 ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-08-31 12:55 ` Anton Protopopov
2026-09-01 10:59 ` sashiko-bot
2026-08-31 11:09 ` [PATCH bpf-next 6/7] selftests/bpf: Add tests for the generic netlink BPF hook Anton Protopopov
2026-08-31 12:07 ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-08-31 13:01 ` Anton Protopopov
2026-08-31 11:09 ` [PATCH bpf-next 7/7] selftests/bpf: Add tests for BPF ethtool hooks Anton Protopopov
2026-08-31 12:07 ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-08-31 13:12 ` Anton Protopopov
2026-08-31 22:34 ` [PATCH bpf-next 0/7] Add new way to add BPF LSM hooks Jakub Kicinski
2026-09-01 12:29 ` Anton Protopopov
2026-09-02 0:49 ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-09-02 15:11 ` Anton Protopopov
2026-09-02 18:07 ` Alexei Starovoitov [this message]
2026-09-02 19:31 ` Anton Protopopov
2026-09-03 12:16 ` Justin Suess
2026-09-03 13:23 ` Anton Protopopov
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