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From: "Alexei Starovoitov" <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>
To: "Eduard Zingerman" <eddyz87@gmail.com>,
	"Vineet Gupta" <vineet.gupta@linux.dev>
Cc: "Alexei Starovoitov" <ast@kernel.org>,
	"Daniel Borkmann" <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	"Andrii Nakryiko" <andrii@kernel.org>,
	"Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi" <memxor@gmail.com>,
	"Martin KaFai Lau" <martin.lau@linux.dev>,
	"Song Liu" <song@kernel.org>,
	"Yonghong Song" <yonghong.song@linux.dev>,
	"Jiri Olsa" <jolsa@kernel.org>,
	"Emil Tsalapatis" <emil@etsalapatis.com>,
	"Ihor Solodrai" <ihor.solodrai@linux.dev>,
	"John Fastabend" <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
	"Shuah Khan" <shuah@kernel.org>, "bpf" <bpf@vger.kernel.org>,
	"LKML" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"open list:KERNEL SELFTEST FRAMEWORK"
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Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next v2 03/13] bpf: track low-32 scalar equality across zero-extending movs
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2026 18:59:19 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DLL84IMPTRQF.3DOQQTN2KCAEW@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ff18ccb77a554000a030199e8c1fbb7d8d298e18.camel@gmail.com>

On Mon Sep 21, 2026 at 5:28 PM UTC, Eduard Zingerman wrote:
> On Wed, 2026-09-16 at 17:30 -0700, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 16, 2026 at 5:08 PM Vineet Gupta <vineet.gupta@linux.dev> wrote:
> > > 
> > > It ended up with full testsuite run parity - after 4 incremental patches.
> > > But the pattern of all those patches was adding some predicate /
> > > special-casing to reg->add_const
> > > 
> > > hunk 1
> > > 
> > > -       if (src_reg->add_const)
> > > +       if (src_reg->add_const && src_reg->delta)
> > 
> > why? It should not.
> > My point is that zero is not special.
> > It should be handled within the current framework.
> > All these extra hunks are not correct.
> > ADD_CONST_32 logic should work for delta == 0 just like
> > it works for delta == 1.
>
> After thinking about it some more, I agree that having an orthogonal
> encoding would be nice. However, it appears that the split should be
> somewhat different:
>
>   struct bpf_reg_state {
>     ...
>     s32 delta;
>     u32 id;
>     enum id_link_kind { full, zext, sext } link_kind;
>     ...
>   }
>
> Where:
> - id == 0 => no id link
> - full => all 64-bits of the register are identical to
>           all 64-bits of a scalar value `id' (let's call it X).
>           ∀ rA{.id == X, .link == full}, rB{X,full} => rA == rB
> - zext => lower 32-bits of the register are identical to
>           lower 32-bits of a scalar value X,
>           upper 32-bits of the register are null.
>           ∀ rA{.id == X, .link == ?}, rB{X,zext} => rA % 32 == rB % 32
> - sext => lower 32-bits of the register are identical to
>           lower 32-bits of a scalar value X,
>           upper 32-bits of the register are either 0 or 1,
>           depending on the bit 31 value.
>           ∀ rA{.id == X, .link == ?}, rB{X,sext} => sext(rA % 32) == sext(rB % 32)

hmm.
there is also 32-bit link with delta, right?

> The reason for such subdivision is that:
>
>   (X + delta) % 32 == X % 32 + delta % 32 == X % 32 + delta iff delta < 2^32
>
> Meaning that a non-zero delta can still be used to infer the state of
> the lower 32-bits, e.g.:
> - if  r1 = (X + delta) % 32
> - and r2 = X
> - and there is a comparison `if r1 < 42 goto ...`
>
> This comparison adds constraints on lower bits of r1,
> and it is correct to transfer these constraints to lower bits of r2
> by subtracting delta from r1 and using lower bits of the result.

Not sure what you're arguing about.
My only point is that 32-bit link with delta makes special
handling of zext unnecessary.
I still don't hear a strong reason why it needs to be handled
outside of 32-bit-link-with-delta.


  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-21 18:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-10 16:46 [PATCH bpf-next v2 00/13] bpf: track scalar equality across the low 32 bits Vineet Gupta
2026-09-10 16:46 ` [PATCH bpf-next v2 01/13] bpf: move linked-scalar flags out of bpf_reg_state->id [NFC] Vineet Gupta
2026-09-10 17:00   ` sashiko-bot
2026-09-11  6:56     ` Vineet Gupta
2026-09-10 17:52   ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-09-14 18:02     ` Vineet Gupta
2026-09-16 21:03       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-09-16 21:21         ` Vineet Gupta
2026-09-18 23:38         ` Vineet Gupta
2026-09-12 18:50   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-09-15  1:17     ` Vineet Gupta
2026-09-16 21:02       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-09-16 21:24         ` Vineet Gupta
2026-09-17  0:36           ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-10-02  8:03             ` Vineet Gupta
2026-10-02 11:23               ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-09-18 23:13       ` Eduard Zingerman
2026-09-21 18:44         ` Vineet Gupta
2026-09-10 16:46 ` [PATCH bpf-next v2 02/13] bpf: compare linked-scalar kinds in regs_exact() Vineet Gupta
2026-09-12 18:51   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-09-15  1:11     ` Vineet Gupta
2026-09-10 16:46 ` [PATCH bpf-next v2 03/13] bpf: track low-32 scalar equality across zero-extending movs Vineet Gupta
2026-09-10 17:52   ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-09-11  9:29     ` Vineet Gupta
2026-09-12 18:59   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-09-15 20:31     ` Vineet Gupta
2026-09-16  4:23       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-09-17  0:08         ` Vineet Gupta
2026-09-17  0:30           ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-09-21 17:28             ` Eduard Zingerman
2026-09-21 18:59               ` Alexei Starovoitov [this message]
2026-09-21 19:10                 ` Eduard Zingerman
2026-09-21 19:27                   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-09-21 19:44                     ` Eduard Zingerman
2026-09-21 21:55                       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-09-21 22:17                         ` Eduard Zingerman
2026-09-21 22:25                           ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-10-02 13:59                             ` Vineet Gupta
2026-09-10 16:46 ` [PATCH bpf-next v2 04/13] selftests/bpf: cover the low-32 link for " Vineet Gupta
2026-09-10 16:46 ` [PATCH bpf-next v2 05/13] bpf: keep the range across a sign extension that cannot change it Vineet Gupta
2026-09-10 17:08   ` sashiko-bot
2026-09-15 21:52     ` Vineet Gupta
2026-09-10 17:52   ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-09-11 10:37     ` Vineet Gupta
2026-09-12 19:02   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-09-15 21:18     ` Vineet Gupta
2026-09-10 16:46 ` [PATCH bpf-next v2 06/13] selftests/bpf: cover sign extensions that cannot change the range Vineet Gupta
2026-09-10 16:46 ` [PATCH bpf-next v2 07/13] bpf: track low-32 scalar equality across sign-extending movs Vineet Gupta
2026-09-10 17:52   ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-09-11 10:00     ` Vineet Gupta
2026-09-12 19:09   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-09-15 20:39     ` Vineet Gupta
2026-09-10 16:46 ` [PATCH bpf-next v2 08/13] selftests/bpf: cover the low-32 link for " Vineet Gupta
2026-09-10 17:52   ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-09-11  8:00     ` Vineet Gupta
2026-09-10 16:46 ` [PATCH bpf-next v2 09/13] bpf: track low-32 scalar equality across narrowing stack fills Vineet Gupta
2026-09-10 17:04   ` sashiko-bot
2026-09-11  6:07     ` Vineet Gupta
2026-09-11  6:43       ` Vineet Gupta
2026-09-10 16:46 ` [PATCH bpf-next v2 10/13] selftests/bpf: cover the low-32 link for " Vineet Gupta
2026-09-10 17:00   ` sashiko-bot
2026-09-11  5:34     ` Vineet Gupta
2026-09-10 17:31   ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-09-11  5:07     ` Vineet Gupta
2026-09-10 16:46 ` [PATCH bpf-next v2 11/13] bpf: record what a narrowing spill actually stores Vineet Gupta
2026-09-10 16:46 ` [PATCH bpf-next v2 12/13] bpf: track low-32 scalar equality across narrowing stack spills Vineet Gupta
2026-09-10 17:05   ` sashiko-bot
2026-09-15 22:08     ` Vineet Gupta
2026-09-10 16:46 ` [PATCH bpf-next v2 13/13] selftests/bpf: cover the low-32 link for " Vineet Gupta

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