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From: "Alexei Starovoitov" <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>
To: "Eduard Zingerman" <eddyz87@gmail.com>,
	"Yonghong Song" <yonghong.song@linux.dev>, <bpf@vger.kernel.org>
Cc: "Alexei Starovoitov" <ast@kernel.org>,
	"Andrii Nakryiko" <andrii@kernel.org>,
	"Daniel Borkmann" <daniel@iogearbox.net>, <kernel-team@fb.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next v5 07/21] bpf: Explore the landing pads no call site reaches
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2026 23:20:59 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DLN2XYLSE1PL.3HCQB74CH54GY@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9d794d45da75370d010dd0234cbba5dea61c19ba.camel@gmail.com>

On Wed Sep 23, 2026 at 10:19 PM UTC, Eduard Zingerman wrote:
> On Wed, 2026-09-23 at 21:28 +0000, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
>
> ...
>
>> imo the following is cleaner:
>> - do not repurpose bpf_throw() for this new thing.
>>   Introduce new kfunc that will do the unwind, let's name it bpf_unwind() ?
>> - replace all 'call bpf_unwind_resume' with NOP by the verifier (or may with bpf_exit. tbd)
>>   Technically rustc or llvm can do that too, but it's cleaner to do in the verifier.
>> - In bpf_unwind() walk all exception tables and replace return addresses
>>   in corresponding frames to landing_pad_ip-s.
>> - just return from bpf_unwind().
>>   restoring callee saved registers will happen automatically by corresponding
>>   frames and there is no need to search exception tables at each step.
>>   That's what typical eh unwinder does, but it's doing it due to C++ logic
>>   that is more complex that Rust. For Rust unwinds we don't need all that.
>>   The above algorithm will do.
>
> +1, makes sense.
> After return address rewrite the unwind would have to jump to it's epilogue, right?

yes. I feel there will be no need in asm() tricks in such kfunc.
unwind will rewrite its own return address, and will return through normal C
and will restore callee saved (whatever it needed),
then immediate callee in bpf prog should have had a landing pad for this kfunc,
since this kfunc is throwing.
so bpf_unwind() will jump to whatever is necessary to unwind in that bpf prog.
And so on till the end.

> Why not reusing bpf_throw() though, is it because of the exception cb mechanics?

yes. bpf_throw() is not seen as throwing from compiler pov.
I believe all kfuncs are not throwing. (that was a bug in this patch I alluded earlier).
So we need a new kfunc and mark it attr(may_throw) or whatever the attr is called,
so that compiler will generate exception tables for that bpf prog.
Last time I checked there were bpf_cleanup section for rust-c in that case,
but that was back in April.

There is also a case of 'catching' abort in rust. iirc it only stops unwind and
rust-c generates something else instead of 'call bpf_unwind_resume'.
Memory is vague. I think that frame will continue as normal after processing
landing pad drop()s.


  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-23 23:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-23  4:58 [PATCH bpf-next v5 00/21] bpf: Run exception cleanup landing pads when bpf_throw() unwinds Yonghong Song
2026-09-23  4:58 ` [PATCH bpf-next v5 01/21] bpf: Pack bpf_insn_aux_data flags into bit fields Yonghong Song
2026-09-23  5:40   ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-09-23 19:16   ` Eduard Zingerman
2026-09-23  4:58 ` [PATCH bpf-next v5 02/21] bpf: Accept the compiler's exception cleanup table at program load Yonghong Song
2026-09-23  4:59 ` [PATCH bpf-next v5 03/21] bpf: Add the bpf_unwind_resume() kfunc Yonghong Song
2026-09-23  6:13   ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2026-09-23  4:59 ` [PATCH bpf-next v5 04/21] bpf: Add lookups for exception cleanup resumes and landing pads Yonghong Song
2026-09-23  4:59 ` [PATCH bpf-next v5 05/21] bpf: Prepare for an exception cleanup table before the CFG walk Yonghong Song
2026-09-23  5:40   ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-09-23  4:59 ` [PATCH bpf-next v5 06/21] bpf: Make exception landing pads reachable in the CFG Yonghong Song
2026-09-23  5:51   ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-09-23 19:25   ` Eduard Zingerman
2026-09-23  4:59 ` [PATCH bpf-next v5 07/21] bpf: Explore the landing pads no call site reaches Yonghong Song
2026-09-23 16:26   ` Eduard Zingerman
2026-09-23 17:27     ` Yonghong Song
2026-09-23 18:06       ` Eduard Zingerman
2026-09-23 18:09         ` Yonghong Song
2026-09-23 21:28     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-09-23 22:19       ` Eduard Zingerman
2026-09-23 23:20         ` Alexei Starovoitov [this message]
2026-09-24  0:13           ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2026-09-24  1:53             ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-09-24  6:12               ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2026-09-23 23:09       ` Yonghong Song
2026-09-23  4:59 ` [PATCH bpf-next v5 08/21] bpf: Walk the exception unwind in the verifier Yonghong Song
2026-09-23 16:34   ` Eduard Zingerman
2026-09-23 18:01     ` Yonghong Song
2026-09-23  4:59 ` [PATCH bpf-next v5 09/21] bpf: Refuse exception cleanup shapes bpf_throw() cannot dispatch Yonghong Song
2026-09-23  4:59 ` [PATCH bpf-next v5 10/21] bpf: Refuse a private stack for a program with an exception cleanup table Yonghong Song
2026-09-23  4:59 ` [PATCH bpf-next v5 11/21] bpf: Dispatch exception cleanup pads from bpf_throw() Yonghong Song
2026-09-23  4:59 ` [PATCH bpf-next v5 12/21] bpf, x86: Dispatch exception cleanup pads at run time Yonghong Song
2026-09-23  6:45   ` Eduard Zingerman
2026-09-23 20:45     ` Yonghong Song
2026-09-23  4:59 ` [PATCH bpf-next v5 13/21] bpf, arm64: " Yonghong Song
2026-09-23  4:59 ` [PATCH bpf-next v5 14/21] libbpf: Resolve the compiler's _Unwind_Resume to the kernel's kfunc Yonghong Song
2026-09-23  8:36   ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2026-09-23  5:00 ` [PATCH bpf-next v5 15/21] libbpf: Add cleanup_info to bpf_prog_load_opts Yonghong Song
2026-09-23  5:00 ` [PATCH bpf-next v5 16/21] libbpf: Collect .bpf_cleanup records and pass them to the kernel Yonghong Song
2026-09-23  5:52   ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2026-09-23  5:00 ` [PATCH bpf-next v5 17/21] libbpf: Carry the exception cleanup table through the light skeleton Yonghong Song
2026-09-23  5:00 ` [PATCH bpf-next v5 18/21] libbpf: Let the static linker carry .bpf_cleanup relocations Yonghong Song
2026-09-23  5:40   ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-09-23  5:00 ` [PATCH bpf-next v5 19/21] selftests/bpf: Add an end-to-end .bpf_cleanup exception test Yonghong Song
2026-09-23  5:51   ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-09-23  5:00 ` [PATCH bpf-next v5 20/21] selftests/bpf: Cover the exception cleanup shapes the chain does not reach Yonghong Song
2026-09-23  5:51   ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-09-23  7:50   ` Eduard Zingerman
2026-09-23  5:00 ` [PATCH bpf-next v5 21/21] selftests/bpf: Load an exception cleanup program from a light skeleton Yonghong Song

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