From: "Alexei Starovoitov" <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>
To: "Jakub Sitnicki" <jakub@cloudflare.com>,
"Daniel Zahka" <daniel.zahka@gmail.com>
Cc: <netdev@vger.kernel.org>, "Alexei Starovoitov" <ast@kernel.org>,
"Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>,
"Kuniyuki Iwashima" <kuniyu@google.com>,
"Paolo Abeni" <pabeni@redhat.com>,
"Stanislav Fomichev" <sdf@fomichev.me>, <bpf@vger.kernel.org>,
<kernel-team@cloudflare.com>,
"Daniel Borkmann" <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
"John Fastabend" <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
"Andrii Nakryiko" <andrii@kernel.org>,
"Eduard Zingerman" <eddyz87@gmail.com>,
"Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi" <memxor@gmail.com>,
"Martin KaFai Lau" <martin.lau@linux.dev>,
"Song Liu" <song@kernel.org>,
"Yonghong Song" <yonghong.song@linux.dev>,
"Jiri Olsa" <jolsa@kernel.org>,
"Emil Tsalapatis" <emil@etsalapatis.com>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
"Eric Dumazet" <edumazet@google.com>,
"Simon Horman" <horms@kernel.org>,
"Jesper Dangaard Brouer" <hawk@kernel.org>,
"Willem de Bruijn" <willemdebruijn.kernel@gmail.com>,
"Florian Westphal" <fw@strlen.de>,
"Jack Wang" <163wangjack@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v2 03/14] bpf: Make BPF skb extension survive packet scrubbing
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2026 01:07:47 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <DLNZU9RYL0GW.CHHAJ4R62R9M@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87fqyypp67.fsf@cloudflare.com>
On Thu Sep 24, 2026 at 4:52 PM UTC, Jakub Sitnicki wrote:
> Hi Daniel,
>
> On Wed, Sep 23, 2026 at 01:46 PM -04, Daniel Zahka wrote:
>> On Thu Sep 10, 2026 at 10:02 AM EDT, Jakub Sitnicki wrote:
>>> skb_scrub_packet() drops all skb extensions unconditionally via
>>> skb_ext_reset(). It runs on tunnel encap/decap (ip_tunnel_rcv, vxlan_rcv,
>>> etc.) and cross-netns forwarding (dev_forward_skb).
>>>
>>> This makes it impossible for a BPF program to pass metadata via bpf_skb_ext
>>> through a tunnel or across a netns boundary. The extension is always lost
>>> at the scrub point.
>>>
>>> Introduce skb_ext_scrub(), a selective variant of skb_ext_reset(). It
>>> deletes every extension except SKB_EXT_BPF. Scrubbing is safe when the
>>> extension slab is shared with clones: deleting an extension only clears the
>>> per-skb active_extensions bit, and the shared slab payload is released
>>> lazily by __skb_ext_put() once the last reference goes away.
>>>
>>> Replace the skb_ext_reset() call in skb_scrub_packet() with skb_ext_scrub()
>>> and also switch udp_try_make_stateless() to skb_ext_scrub() as well, so the
>>> BPF metadata survives queueing onto a UDP socket receive queue and stays
>>> readable there (e.g. for a sockmap verdict program). Only mark the skb
>>> stateless when no extension survives the scrub. Otherwise skb_consume_udp()
>>> would take the __consume_stateless_skb() fast path, which skips
>>> skb_release_head_state(), and leak the extension slab.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Jakub Sitnicki <jakub@cloudflare.com>
>>> ---
>>
>> Hello Jakub,
>> What are your current plans for this series? This commit solves the same
>> problem I have with wanting to preserve the PSP skb extension across
>> netns forwarding.
>
> I've implemented Alexei's idea of skb-lifecycle tracepoints that run
> only when an skb is marked/traced. Currently putting final touches on it
> before sending it out for the first round of feedback. You can take
> sneak peek at it on GH [1] to see if it meets your needs.
>
> The CPU overhead is lower compared to the skb extension, at least in my
> local runs, and the kernel changes are simpler, so it seems like a win
> overall:
>
> | | gated skb tps | bpf skb ext |
> |------------------|------------------|------------------|
> | **busy** | **+5.44 ± 3.16** | **+8.01 ± 4.75** |
> | sys | +2.62 ± 2.06 | +3.67 ± 2.76 |
> | soft | +2.89 ± 1.43 | +3.83 ± 2.10 |
> | ns/pkt @146k pps | **+≈ 373** | **+≈ 549** |
>
> I'll be giving an update on it at LPC [1], if you're attending, and of
> course will keep you posted here on the ML.
Well, the numbers speak for themselves. I think :)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-09-25 1:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-09-10 14:02 [PATCH net-next v2 00/14] skb extension for BPF metadata Jakub Sitnicki
2026-09-10 14:02 ` [PATCH net-next v2 01/14] bpf: Introduce per-packet metadata storage for BPF programs Jakub Sitnicki
2026-09-11 10:19 ` Jiayuan Chen
2026-09-10 14:02 ` [PATCH net-next v2 02/14] bpf: Allow access to bpf_sock_ops_kern->skb Jakub Sitnicki
2026-09-10 14:02 ` [PATCH net-next v2 03/14] bpf: Make BPF skb extension survive packet scrubbing Jakub Sitnicki
2026-09-23 17:46 ` Daniel Zahka
2026-09-24 16:52 ` Jakub Sitnicki
2026-09-25 1:07 ` Alexei Starovoitov [this message]
2026-09-25 19:18 ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-09-25 19:51 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-09-25 20:20 ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-09-25 20:27 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-09-28 15:52 ` Jakub Sitnicki
2026-09-28 16:14 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-09-29 20:32 ` Jakub Sitnicki
2026-09-30 9:00 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-10-02 12:37 ` Jakub Sitnicki
2026-09-25 12:03 ` Daniel Zahka
2026-09-25 15:24 ` Jakub Sitnicki
2026-09-10 14:02 ` [PATCH net-next v2 04/14] selftests/bpf: Add tests for bpf_dynptr_from_skb_ext Jakub Sitnicki
2026-09-11 15:09 ` sashiko-bot
2026-09-10 14:02 ` [PATCH net-next v2 05/14] selftests/bpf: Test skb_ext on cloned skbs Jakub Sitnicki
2026-09-11 15:09 ` sashiko-bot
2026-09-10 14:02 ` [PATCH net-next v2 06/14] selftests/bpf: Test skb_ext survival across veth and GRE Jakub Sitnicki
2026-09-10 14:02 ` [PATCH net-next v2 07/14] selftests/bpf: Test skb_ext read from cgroup_skb and sk_filter hooks Jakub Sitnicki
2026-09-10 14:02 ` [PATCH net-next v2 08/14] selftests/bpf: Test skb_ext read from sock_ops and LSM hooks Jakub Sitnicki
2026-09-10 14:02 ` [PATCH net-next v2 09/14] selftests/bpf: Test skb_ext read from kfree_skb tracepoint Jakub Sitnicki
2026-09-10 14:02 ` [PATCH net-next v2 10/14] selftests/bpf: Test skb_ext read from netfilter hook Jakub Sitnicki
2026-09-10 14:02 ` [PATCH net-next v2 11/14] selftests/bpf: Test skb_ext from LWT in, out, and xmit hooks Jakub Sitnicki
2026-09-10 14:02 ` [PATCH net-next v2 12/14] selftests/bpf: Test skb_ext read from seg6local End.BPF hook Jakub Sitnicki
2026-09-10 14:02 ` [PATCH net-next v2 13/14] selftests/bpf: Test skb_ext read from sk_skb stream verdict hook Jakub Sitnicki
2026-09-10 14:02 ` [PATCH net-next v2 14/14] selftests/bpf: Use non-trivial test payload in xdp_context tests Jakub Sitnicki
2026-09-10 15:56 ` [PATCH net-next v2 00/14] skb extension for BPF metadata Alexei Starovoitov
2026-09-11 11:33 ` Jakub Sitnicki
2026-09-12 3:32 ` Alexei Starovoitov
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