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From: "Daniel Zahka" <daniel.zahka@gmail.com>
To: "Sebastian Andrzej Siewior" <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
	"Jakub Kicinski" <kuba@kernel.org>
Cc: "Daniel Zahka" <daniel.zahka@gmail.com>,
	"Alexander Duyck" <alexanderduyck@fb.com>, <kernel-team@meta.com>,
	"Andrew Lunn" <andrew+netdev@lunn.ch>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"Paolo Abeni" <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	"Alexei Starovoitov" <ast@kernel.org>,
	"Daniel Borkmann" <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	"Jesper Dangaard Brouer" <hawk@kernel.org>,
	"John Fastabend" <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
	"Stanislav Fomichev" <sdf@fomichev.me>,
	"Eric Dumazet" <edumazet@kernel.org>, <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <bpf@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v2 1/4] eth: mpnic: count packets, bytes, and drops per ring
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2026 07:06:07 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DMEPZAAH894H.2LX47UFLJTCQW@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20261026101117.YTmp0eu2@linutronix.de>

On Mon Oct 26, 2026 at 6:11 AM EDT, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote:
> On 2026-10-20 14:50:38 [-0700], Jakub Kicinski wrote:
>> On Tue, 20 Oct 2026 23:21:55 +0200 Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote:
>> > > > Is there any other driver doing this?
>> > > > There is ::get_sset_count() and so on for the per-queue stats.  
>> > > 
>> > > You may be mixing up queue stats (netlink) with the old ethtool -S
>> > > kitchen sink / garbage dump.  
>> > 
>> > The statistics is folded on device-down into a global counter. So on
>> > device-up the statistics is still available. At least that is my
>> > understanding. This means the per-queue stats are lost and global stats
>> > don't match the per queue stats anymore.
>> 
>> Yes, that's intentional and recommended by the docs for queue stats.
>
> I guess this is Documentation/networking/statistics.rst that I need to
> study.
>
>> > So if this never happens, it might not be needed to preserve this. That
>> > force-RCU might not be needed. This does happen on down and I would
>> > assume that the device is no longer processing packets.
>> 
>> The (old) ndo for stats reading runs under RCU, only.
>> AI will immediately point that out if we remove the sync.
>> 
>> May I ask why you care? Is there another driver you're trying 
>> to implement stats in? I'm not sure where you're coming from
>> and therefore what to explain to you.
>
> I tried to be useful and do so some reviews and this stats part is what
> I did not expect to be "expected". I would expect per-queue stats which
> are folded into device stats on query time. Anyway. Let me study what is
> recommended before making noise here again.
> One last thing: If you replace RCU with SRCU then the logic should
> remain the same. On the plus side you would have some domain separation
> and the "synchronize" part will not force/ wait for the global grace
> period but be limited to the local one.
>
> Sebastian

I do appreciate the review. Thanks for the SRCU suggestion. I hadn't
considered that. Optimizing the writer side performance will become more
important when we implement ethtool ringparam/channel reconfiguration.
Another idea we had was to heap allocate the base stats and use
call_rcu() to free instead. I decided against that for now, because I
thought it was more complicated, and the writer side is limted to just
ndo_open/ndo_stop for now. 

  reply	other threads:[~2026-10-26 11:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-10-12 12:04 [PATCH net-next v2 0/4] eth: mpnic: add basic netdev statistics Daniel Zahka
2026-10-12 12:04 ` [PATCH net-next v2 1/4] eth: mpnic: count packets, bytes, and drops per ring Daniel Zahka
2026-10-13 12:05   ` netdev-bot+sashiko
2026-10-13 12:10     ` Daniel Zahka
2026-10-16 22:09   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-10-19 13:04     ` Daniel Zahka
2026-10-19 21:54       ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-10-20  2:05         ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-10-20 21:21           ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-10-20 21:34             ` Daniel Zahka
2026-10-20 21:50             ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-10-26 10:11               ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-10-26 11:06                 ` Daniel Zahka [this message]
2026-10-21  8:26             ` Paolo Abeni
2026-10-26 10:13               ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2026-10-12 12:04 ` [PATCH net-next v2 2/4] eth: mpnic: report per-queue stats Daniel Zahka
2026-10-13 12:05   ` netdev-bot+sashiko
2026-10-13 13:30     ` Daniel Zahka
2026-10-20  2:00       ` Jakub Kicinski
2026-10-12 12:04 ` [PATCH net-next v2 3/4] eth: mpnic: count Tx queue stops and wakes Daniel Zahka
2026-10-12 12:04 ` [PATCH net-next v2 4/4] eth: mpnic: count Rx allocation failures Daniel Zahka
2026-10-21  8:40 ` [PATCH net-next v2 0/4] eth: mpnic: add basic netdev statistics patchwork-bot+netdevbpf

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