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From: Jiri Olsa <olsajiri@gmail.com>
To: Andrii Nakryiko <andrii.nakryiko@gmail.com>
Cc: Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>,
	bpf@vger.kernel.org, Martin KaFai Lau <kafai@fb.com>,
	Song Liu <songliubraving@fb.com>, Yonghong Song <yhs@fb.com>,
	John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
	KP Singh <kpsingh@chromium.org>,
	Stanislav Fomichev <sdf@google.com>, Hao Luo <haoluo@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCHv4 bpf-next 2/4] bpf: Add bpf_vma_build_id_parse function and kfunc
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2022 09:52:51 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y4XIY2sV39VxgutD@krava> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEf4BzaZCUoxN_X2ALXwQeFTCwtL17R4P_B_-hUCcidfyO2xyQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Nov 28, 2022 at 05:15:44PM -0800, Andrii Nakryiko wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 28, 2022 at 5:29 AM Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > Adding bpf_vma_build_id_parse function to retrieve build id from
> > passed vma object and making it available as bpf kfunc.
> 
> As a completely different way of solving this problem of retrieving
> build_id for tracing needs, can we teach kernel itself to parse and
> store build_id (probably gated behind Kconfig option) in struct file
> (ideally)? On exec() and when mmap()'ing with executable permissions,
> Linux kernel will try to fetch build_id from ELF file and if
> successful store it in struct file. Given build_id can be up to 20
> bytes (currently) and not each struct file points to executable, we
> might want to only add a pointer field to `struct file` itself, which,
> if build_id is present, will point to
> 
> struct build_id {
>     char sz;
>     char data[];
> };
> 
> This way we don't increase `struct file` by much.
> 
> And then any BPF program would be able to easily probe_read_kernel
> such build_id from vma_area_struct->vm_file->build_id?
> 
> I'm sure I'm oversimplifying, but this seems like a good solution for
> all kinds of profiling BPF programs without the need to maintain all
> these allowlists and adding new helpers/kfuncs?

good idea, that would make it much easier, will check

jirka

> 
> I know Hao was looking at the problem of getting build_id, I'm curious
> if something like this would work for their use cases as well?
> 
> 
> >
> > We can't use build_id_parse directly as kfunc, because we would
> > not have control over the build id buffer size provided by user.
> >
> > Instead we are adding new bpf_vma_build_id_parse function with
> > 'build_id__sz' argument that instructs verifier to check for the
> > available space in build_id buffer.
> >
> > This way we check that there's always available memory space
> > behind build_id pointer. We also check that the build_id__sz is
> > at least BUILD_ID_SIZE_MAX so we can place any buildid in.
> >
> > The bpf_vma_build_id_parse kfunc is marked as KF_TRUSTED_ARGS,
> > so it can be only called with trusted vma objects. These are
> > currently provided only by find_vma callback function and
> > task_vma iterator program.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org>
> > ---
> >  include/linux/bpf.h      |  4 ++++
> >  kernel/trace/bpf_trace.c | 31 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >  2 files changed, 35 insertions(+)
> >
> 
> [...]

  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-11-29  8:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-28 13:29 [PATCHv4 bpf-next 0/4] bpf: Add bpf_vma_build_id_parse kfunc Jiri Olsa
2022-11-28 13:29 ` [PATCHv4 bpf-next 1/4] bpf: Mark vma objects as trusted for task_vma iter and find_vma callback Jiri Olsa
2022-11-28 18:43   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-11-28 19:04     ` Yonghong Song
2022-11-28 20:25       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-11-28 13:29 ` [PATCHv4 bpf-next 2/4] bpf: Add bpf_vma_build_id_parse function and kfunc Jiri Olsa
2022-11-28 21:36   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2022-11-29  8:45     ` Jiri Olsa
2022-11-29  1:15   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2022-11-29  6:20     ` Hao Luo
2022-11-30  0:35       ` Andrii Nakryiko
2022-11-30  1:27         ` Hao Luo
2022-12-01  1:11           ` Andrii Nakryiko
2022-11-29  8:52     ` Jiri Olsa [this message]
2022-11-28 13:29 ` [PATCHv4 bpf-next 3/4] selftests/bpf: Add bpf_vma_build_id_parse find_vma callback test Jiri Olsa
2022-11-28 19:25   ` Hao Luo
2022-11-29  8:32     ` Jiri Olsa
2022-11-28 13:29 ` [PATCHv4 bpf-next 4/4] selftests/bpf: Add bpf_vma_build_id_parse task vma iterator test Jiri Olsa
2022-11-28 19:21   ` Hao Luo
2022-11-29  8:29     ` Jiri Olsa

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