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From: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>
To: Andrea Righi <arighi@nvidia.com>
Cc: David Vernet <void@manifault.com>,
	Changwoo Min <changwoo@igalia.com>,
	bpf@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/6] sched_ext: idle: Introduce the concept of allowed CPUs
Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2025 04:56:34 -1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z82sImYF7jOgPGbL@slm.duckdns.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z8voSv70QuxuZa5Z@gpd3>

Hello,

On Sat, Mar 08, 2025 at 07:48:42AM +0100, Andrea Righi wrote:
> > > With this concept the idle CPU selection policy becomes the following:
> > >  - always prioritize CPUs from fully idle SMT cores (if SMT is enabled),
> > >  - select the same CPU if it's idle and in the allowed domain,
> > >  - select an idle CPU within the same LLC domain, if the LLC domain is a
> > >    subset of the allowed domain,
> > 
> > Why not select from the intersection of the same LLC domain and the cpumask?
> 
> We could do that, but to guarantee the intersection we need to introduce
> other temporary cpumasks (one for the LLC intersection and another for the
> NUMA), which is not a big problem, but it can introduce overhead. And most
> of the time the LLC group is either a subset of the allowed CPUs or
> vice-versa, so in this case the current logic already works.
> 
> The extra cpumask work is needed only when the allowed cpumask spans
> multiple partial LLCs, which should be rare. So maybe in such cases, we
> could tolerate the additional overhead of updating an additional temporary
> cpumask to ensure proper hierarchical semantics (maintaining consistency
> with the topology hierarchy). WDYT?

Would just using a pre-allocated cpumask to do pre-and on @cpus_allowed
work? This won't only be used for topology support (e.g. soft partitioning
in scx_layered and scx_mitosis may want to use multi-topology-unit spanning
subsets) and I'm not sure assuming and optimizing for that is a good idea
for generic API.

We can do something simple now. Note that if we want to optimize it, we can
introduce cpumask_any_and_and_distribute(). There already is
cpumask_first_and_and(), so the pattern isn't new and the only extra bitops
we need to add is find_next_and_and_bit_wrap(). There's already
find_first_and_and_bit(), so I don't think it will be all that difficult to
add.

Thanks.

-- 
tejun

  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-09 14:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-07 20:01 [PATCHSET v2 sched_ext/for-6.15] sched_ext: Enhance built-in idle selection with allowed CPUs Andrea Righi
2025-03-07 20:01 ` [PATCH 1/6] sched_ext: idle: Honor idle flags in the built-in idle selection policy Andrea Righi
2025-03-07 20:01 ` [PATCH 2/6] sched_ext: idle: Refactor scx_select_cpu_dfl() Andrea Righi
2025-03-07 20:01 ` [PATCH 3/6] sched_ext: idle: Introduce the concept of allowed CPUs Andrea Righi
2025-03-07 22:17   ` Tejun Heo
2025-03-08  6:48     ` Andrea Righi
2025-03-09 14:56       ` Tejun Heo [this message]
2025-03-09 15:39         ` Andrea Righi
2025-03-10 16:07           ` Tejun Heo
2025-03-10 17:15             ` Andrea Righi
2025-03-07 20:01 ` [PATCH 4/6] sched_ext: idle: Introduce scx_bpf_select_cpu_and() Andrea Righi
2025-03-07 20:01 ` [PATCH 5/6] selftests/sched_ext: Add test for scx_bpf_select_cpu_and() Andrea Righi
2025-03-07 20:01 ` [PATCH 6/6] sched_ext: idle: Deprecate scx_bpf_select_cpu_dfl() Andrea Righi

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