From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
To: Chuyi Zhou <zhouchuyi@bytedance.com>
Cc: hannes@cmpxchg.org, roman.gushchin@linux.dev, ast@kernel.org,
daniel@iogearbox.net, andrii@kernel.org, bpf@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, wuyun.abel@bytedance.com,
robin.lu@bytedance.com, muchun.song@linux.dev,
zhengqi.arch@bytedance.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/5] mm: Select victim memcg using BPF_OOM_POLICY
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2023 15:23:58 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZMe17kOoHr/eYnVT@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <eb764131-6d2f-c088-5481-99d605a67349@bytedance.com>
On Mon 31-07-23 14:00:22, Chuyi Zhou wrote:
> Hello, Michal
>
> 在 2023/7/28 01:23, Michal Hocko 写道:
[...]
> > This sounds like a very specific oom policy and that is fine. But the
> > interface shouldn't be bound to any concepts like priorities let alone
> > be bound to memcg based selection. Ideally the BPF program should get
> > the oom_control as an input and either get a hook to kill process or if
> > that is not possible then return an entity to kill (either process or
> > set of processes).
>
> Here are two interfaces I can think of. I was wondering if you could give me
> some feedback.
>
> 1. Add a new hook in select_bad_process(), we can attach it and return a set
> of pids or cgroup_ids which are pre-selected by user-defined policy,
> suggested by Roman. Then we could use oom_evaluate_task to find a final
> victim among them. It's user-friendly and we can offload the OOM policy to
> userspace.
>
> 2. Add a new hook in oom_evaluate_task() and return a point to override the
> default oom_badness return-value. The simplest way to use this is to protect
> certain processes by setting the minimum score.
>
> Of course if you have a better idea, please let me know.
Hooking into oom_evaluate_task seems the least disruptive to the
existing oom killer implementation. I would start by planing with that
and see whether useful oom policies could be defined this way. I am not
sure what is the best way to communicate user input so that a BPF prgram
can consume it though. The interface should be generic enough that it
doesn't really pre-define any specific class of policies. Maybe we can
add something completely opaque to each memcg/task? Does BPF
infrastructure allow anything like that already?
--
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-07-31 13:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-07-27 7:36 [RFC PATCH 0/5] mm: Select victim memcg using BPF_OOM_POLICY Chuyi Zhou
2023-07-27 7:36 ` [RFC PATCH 1/5] bpf: Introduce BPF_PROG_TYPE_OOM_POLICY Chuyi Zhou
2023-07-27 7:36 ` [RFC PATCH 2/5] mm: Select victim memcg using bpf prog Chuyi Zhou
2023-07-27 7:36 ` [RFC PATCH 3/5] libbpf, bpftool: Support BPF_PROG_TYPE_OOM_POLICY Chuyi Zhou
2023-07-27 12:26 ` Quentin Monnet
2023-07-28 3:01 ` Chuyi Zhou
2023-07-27 7:36 ` [RFC PATCH 4/5] bpf: Add a new bpf helper to get cgroup ino Chuyi Zhou
2023-07-27 7:36 ` [RFC PATCH 5/5] bpf: Sample BPF program to set oom policy Chuyi Zhou
2023-07-27 8:15 ` [RFC PATCH 0/5] mm: Select victim memcg using BPF_OOM_POLICY Michal Hocko
2023-07-27 12:12 ` Chuyi Zhou
2023-07-27 17:23 ` Michal Hocko
2023-07-31 6:00 ` Chuyi Zhou
2023-07-31 13:23 ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2023-07-31 16:26 ` Chuyi Zhou
2023-08-01 8:18 ` Michal Hocko
2023-08-02 3:04 ` Chuyi Zhou
2023-07-28 4:30 ` Roman Gushchin
2023-07-28 8:06 ` Michal Hocko
2023-07-28 18:42 ` Roman Gushchin
2023-07-31 13:12 ` Michal Hocko
2023-08-01 6:53 ` Abel Wu
2023-07-27 11:43 ` Alan Maguire
2023-07-27 15:57 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2023-07-27 17:17 ` Michal Hocko
2023-07-28 2:34 ` [External] " Chuyi Zhou
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