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From: Eduard Zingerman <eddyz87@gmail.com>
To: Yonghong Song <yonghong.song@linux.dev>,
	Andrea Righi <arighi@nvidia.com>,
	 Alexei Starovoitov	 <ast@kernel.org>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	Andrii Nakryiko	 <andrii@kernel.org>,
	alan.maguire@oracle.com
Cc: Martin KaFai Lau <martin.lau@linux.dev>,
	Song Liu <song@kernel.org>,
	 John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
	KP Singh <kpsingh@kernel.org>,
	Stanislav Fomichev <sdf@fomichev.me>,
	 Hao Luo <haoluo@google.com>, Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org>,
	David Vernet <void@manifault.com>,
	 bpf@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] bpf: Mark kfuncs as __noclone
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2025 12:13:17 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a7bcc333d54501d544821b5feeb82588d3bc06cb.camel@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a3dabb42-efb5-4aea-8bf8-b3d5ae26dfa1@linux.dev>

On Wed, 2025-08-27 at 10:00 -0700, Yonghong Song wrote:
> 
> On 8/26/25 10:02 PM, Eduard Zingerman wrote:
> > On Tue, 2025-08-26 at 13:17 -0700, Yonghong Song wrote:
> > 
> > [...]
> > 
> > > I tried with gcc14 and can reproduced the issue described in the above.
> > > I build the kernel like below with gcc14
> > >     make KCFLAGS='-O3' -j
> > > and get the following build error
> > >     WARN: resolve_btfids: unresolved symbol bpf_strnchr
> > >     make[2]: *** [/home/yhs/work/bpf-next/scripts/Makefile.vmlinux:91: vmlinux] Error 255
> > >     make[2]: *** Deleting file 'vmlinux'
> > > Checking the symbol table:
> > >      22276: ffffffff81b15260   249 FUNC    LOCAL  DEFAULT    1 bpf_strnchr.cons[...]
> > >     235128: ffffffff81b1f540   296 FUNC    GLOBAL DEFAULT    1 bpf_strnchr
> > > and the disasm code:
> > >     bpf_strnchr:
> > >       ...
> > > 
> > >     bpf_strchr:
> > >       ...
> > >       bpf_strnchr.constprop.0
> > >       ...
> > > 
> > > So in symbol table, we have both bpf_strnchr.constprop.0 and bpf_strnchr.
> > > For such case, pahole will skip func bpf_strnchr hence the above resolve_btfids
> > > failure.
> > > 
> > > The solution in this patch can indeed resolve this issue.
> > It looks like instead of adding __noclone there is an option to
> > improve pahole's filtering of ambiguous functions.
> > Abstractly, there is nothing wrong with having a clone of a global
> > function that has undergone additional optimizations. As long as the
> > original symbol exists, everything should be fine.
> 
> Right. The generated code itself is totally fine. The problem is
> currently pahole will filter out bpf_strnchr since in the symbol table
> having both bpf_strnchr and bpf_strnchr.constprop.0. It there is
> no explicit dwarf-level signature in dwarf for bpf_strnchr.constprop.0.
> (For this particular .constprop.0 case, it is possible to derive the
>   signature. but it will be hard for other suffixes like .isra).
> The current pahole will have strip out suffixes so the function
> name is 'bpf_strnchr' which covers bpf_strnchr and bpf_strnchr.constprop.0.
> Since two underlying signature is different, the 'bpf_strnchr'
> will be filtered out.

Yes, I understand the mechanics. My question is: is it really
necessary for pahole to go through this process?

It sees two functions: 'bpf_strnchr', 'bpf_strnchr.constprop.0',
first global, second local, first with DWARF signature, second w/o
DWARF signature. So, why conflating the two?

For non-lto build the function being global guarantees signature
correctness, and below you confirm that it is the case for lto builds
as well. So, it looks like we are just loosing 'bpf_strnchr' for no
good reason.

> I am actually working to improve such cases in llvm to address
> like foo() and foo.<...>() functions and they will have their
> own respective functions. We will discuss with gcc folks
> about how to implement similar approaches in gcc.
> 
> > 
> > Since kfuncs are global, this should guarantee that the compiler does not
> > change their signature, correct? Does this also hold for LTO builds?
> 
> Yes, the original signature will not changed. This holds for LTO build
> and global variables/functions will not be renamed.
> 
> > If so, when pahole sees a set of symbols like [foo, foo.1, foo.2, ...],
> 
> The compiler needs to emit the signature in dwarf for foo.1, foo.2, etc. and this
> is something I am working on.
> 
> > with 'foo' being global and the rest local, then there is no real need
> > to filter out 'foo'.
> 
> I think the current __noclone approach is okay as the full implementation
> for signature changes (foo, foo.1, ...) might takes a while for both llvm
> and gcc.
> 
> > 
> > Wdyt?
> > 
> > [...]

  reply	other threads:[~2025-08-27 19:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-22 14:05 [PATCH] bpf: Mark kfuncs as __noclone Andrea Righi
2025-08-26 20:17 ` Yonghong Song
2025-08-27  5:02   ` Eduard Zingerman
2025-08-27  5:41     ` Andrea Righi
2025-08-27  6:52       ` Eduard Zingerman
2025-08-27  7:01         ` Eduard Zingerman
2025-08-27  7:45           ` Andrea Righi
2025-08-27 17:03         ` Yonghong Song
2025-08-27 17:00     ` Yonghong Song
2025-08-27 19:13       ` Eduard Zingerman [this message]
2025-08-27 19:28         ` Alan Maguire
2025-08-27 19:41           ` Eduard Zingerman
2025-08-27 19:52             ` Alan Maguire
2025-08-27 22:28               ` Yonghong Song
2025-08-27 22:10         ` Yonghong Song
2025-08-27  2:10 ` David Vernet

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