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From: Andrea Righi <arighi@nvidia.com>
To: Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
	Joel Fernandes <joelagnelf@nvidia.com>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	David Vernet <void@manifault.com>,
	Changwoo Min <changwoo@igalia.com>, Shuah Khan <shuah@kernel.org>,
	sched-ext@lists.linux.dev, bpf@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Luigi De Matteis <ldematteis123@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 06/14] sched_ext: Add a DL server for sched_ext tasks
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2025 15:50:56 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aPY-QOXV5USEHVIq@gpd4> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aPYj-iOdvgUYQFpn@jlelli-thinkpadt14gen4.remote.csb>

Hi Juri,

On Mon, Oct 20, 2025 at 01:58:50PM +0200, Juri Lelli wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> On 17/10/25 11:25, Andrea Righi wrote:
> > From: Joel Fernandes <joelagnelf@nvidia.com>
> > 
> > sched_ext currently suffers starvation due to RT. The same workload when
> > converted to EXT can get zero runtime if RT is 100% running, causing EXT
> > processes to stall. Fix it by adding a DL server for EXT.
> > 
> > A kselftest is also provided later to verify:
> > 
> > ./runner -t rt_stall
> > ===== START =====
> > TEST: rt_stall
> > DESCRIPTION: Verify that RT tasks cannot stall SCHED_EXT tasks
> > OUTPUT:
> > TAP version 13
> > 1..1
> > ok 1 PASS: CFS task got more than 4.00% of runtime
> > 
> > [ arighi: drop ->balance() now that pick_task() has an rf argument ]
> > 
> > Cc: Luigi De Matteis <ldematteis123@gmail.com>
> > Co-developed-by: Andrea Righi <arighi@nvidia.com>
> > Signed-off-by: Andrea Righi <arighi@nvidia.com>
> > Signed-off-by: Joel Fernandes <joelagnelf@nvidia.com>
> > ---
> >  kernel/sched/core.c     |  3 +++
> >  kernel/sched/deadline.c |  2 +-
> >  kernel/sched/ext.c      | 51 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++--
> >  kernel/sched/sched.h    |  2 ++
> >  4 files changed, 55 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
> > 
> > diff --git a/kernel/sched/core.c b/kernel/sched/core.c
> > index 096e8d03d85e7..31a9c9381c63f 100644
> > --- a/kernel/sched/core.c
> > +++ b/kernel/sched/core.c
> > @@ -8679,6 +8679,9 @@ void __init sched_init(void)
> >  		hrtick_rq_init(rq);
> >  		atomic_set(&rq->nr_iowait, 0);
> >  		fair_server_init(rq);
> > +#ifdef CONFIG_SCHED_CLASS_EXT
> > +		ext_server_init(rq);
> > +#endif
> >  
> >  #ifdef CONFIG_SCHED_CORE
> >  		rq->core = rq;
> > diff --git a/kernel/sched/deadline.c b/kernel/sched/deadline.c
> > index 0680e0186577a..3c1fd2190949e 100644
> > --- a/kernel/sched/deadline.c
> > +++ b/kernel/sched/deadline.c
> > @@ -1504,7 +1504,7 @@ static void update_curr_dl_se(struct rq *rq, struct sched_dl_entity *dl_se, s64
> >  	 * The fair server (sole dl_server) does not account for real-time
> 
> Fair server is not alone anymore. :))
> 
> Please update the comment as well.
> 
> >  	 * workload because it is running fair work.
> >  	 */
> > -	if (dl_se == &rq->fair_server)
> > +	if (dl_se->dl_server)
> >  		return;
> >  
> >  #ifdef CONFIG_RT_GROUP_SCHED
> 
> ...
> 
> > @@ -1487,6 +1499,11 @@ static bool dequeue_task_scx(struct rq *rq, struct task_struct *p, int deq_flags
> >  	sub_nr_running(rq, 1);
> >  
> >  	dispatch_dequeue(rq, p);
> > +
> > +	/* Stop the server if this was the last task */
> > +	if (rq->scx.nr_running == 0)
> > +		dl_server_stop(&rq->ext_server);
> > +
> 
> Do we want to use the delayed stop behavior for scx-server as we have
> for fair-server? Wonder if it's a matter of removing this explicit stop
> and wait for a full period to elapse as we do for fair. It should reduce
> timer reprogramming overhead for scx as well.

So, IIUC we could just remove this explicit dl_server_stop() and the server
would naturally stop at the end of its current deadline period, if there
are still no runnable tasks, right?

In that case it's worth a try.

Thanks,
-Andrea

  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-20 13:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-17  9:25 [PATCHSET v9 sched_ext/for-6.19] Add a deadline server for sched_ext tasks Andrea Righi
2025-10-17  9:25 ` [PATCH 01/14] sched/debug: Fix updating of ppos on server write ops Andrea Righi
2025-10-20  8:36   ` Juri Lelli
2025-10-17  9:25 ` [PATCH 02/14] sched/debug: Stop and start server based on if it was active Andrea Righi
2025-10-20  9:12   ` Juri Lelli
2025-10-20  9:27     ` Juri Lelli
2025-10-17  9:25 ` [PATCH 03/14] sched/deadline: Clear the defer params Andrea Righi
2025-10-17  9:25 ` [PATCH 04/14] sched/deadline: Return EBUSY if dl_bw_cpus is zero Andrea Righi
2025-10-20  9:49   ` Juri Lelli
2025-10-20 13:38     ` Andrea Righi
2025-10-20 14:03       ` Andrea Righi
2025-10-20 14:12         ` Juri Lelli
2025-10-17  9:25 ` [PATCH 05/14] sched: Add a server arg to dl_server_update_idle_time() Andrea Righi
2025-10-20  9:54   ` Juri Lelli
2025-10-20 12:49   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-17  9:25 ` [PATCH 06/14] sched_ext: Add a DL server for sched_ext tasks Andrea Righi
2025-10-17 15:40   ` Tejun Heo
2025-10-17 19:00     ` Andrea Righi
2025-10-17 15:47   ` Tejun Heo
2025-10-17 18:58     ` Andrea Righi
2025-10-17 19:04       ` Tejun Heo
2025-10-17 19:06         ` Andrea Righi
2025-10-20 11:58   ` Juri Lelli
2025-10-20 13:50     ` Andrea Righi [this message]
2025-10-20 14:09       ` Juri Lelli
2025-10-17  9:25 ` [PATCH 07/14] sched/debug: Add support to change sched_ext server params Andrea Righi
2025-10-20 12:45   ` Juri Lelli
2025-10-21  6:23     ` Andrea Righi
2025-10-17  9:25 ` [PATCH 08/14] sched/deadline: Add support to remove DL server's bandwidth contribution Andrea Righi
2025-10-20 13:46   ` Juri Lelli
2025-10-17  9:25 ` [PATCH 09/14] sched/deadline: Account ext server bandwidth Andrea Righi
2025-10-17  9:25 ` [PATCH 10/14] sched/deadline: Allow to initialize DL server when needed Andrea Righi
2025-10-17  9:25 ` [PATCH 11/14] sched/deadline: Fix DL server crash in inactive_timer callback Andrea Righi
2025-10-17  9:25 ` [PATCH 12/14] sched_ext: Selectively enable ext and fair DL servers Andrea Righi
2025-10-17  9:26 ` [PATCH 13/14] selftests/sched_ext: Add test for sched_ext dl_server Andrea Righi
2025-10-19 19:04   ` Emil Tsalapatis
2025-10-20 13:22     ` Andrea Righi
2025-10-20 13:44       ` Andrea Righi
2025-10-20 13:26   ` Christian Loehle
2025-10-20 13:55     ` Andrea Righi
2025-10-20 14:00       ` Andrea Righi
2025-10-20 14:21       ` Christian Loehle
2025-10-23 15:01         ` Christian Loehle
2025-10-23 15:11           ` Andrea Righi
2025-10-17  9:26 ` [PATCH 14/14] selftests/sched_ext: Add test for DL server total_bw consistency Andrea Righi

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