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From: Jiri Olsa <olsajiri@gmail.com>
To: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>
Cc: Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>, bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-trace-kernel <linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Martin KaFai Lau <kafai@fb.com>,
	Eduard Zingerman <eddyz87@gmail.com>,
	Song Liu <songliubraving@fb.com>, Yonghong Song <yhs@fb.com>,
	Menglong Dong <menglong8.dong@gmail.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC bpf-next 00/12] bpf: tracing_multi link
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2026 13:36:49 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aYM9YUl6xf9I2x4c@krava> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAADnVQ+EU_f4LVDQkqkB0Q+QYMBH5ynXU3+rGZA2XCGmYMcFqg@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Feb 03, 2026 at 03:17:05PM -0800, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 3, 2026 at 1:38 AM Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > hi,
> > as an option to Meglong's change [1] I'm sending proposal for tracing_multi
> > link that does not add static trampoline but attaches program to all needed
> > trampolines.
> >
> > This approach keeps the same performance but has some drawbacks:
> >
> >  - when attaching 20k functions we allocate and attach 20k trampolines
> >  - during attachment we hold each trampoline mutex, so for above
> >    20k functions we will hold 20k mutexes during the attachment,
> >    should be very prone to deadlock, but haven't hit it yet
> 
> If you check that it's sorted and always take them in the same order
> then there will be no deadlock.
> Or just grab one global mutex first and then grab trampolines mutexes
> next in any order. The global one will serialize this attach operation.
> 
> > It looks the trampoline allocations/generation might not be big a problem
> > and I'll try to find a solution for holding that many mutexes. If there's
> > no better solution I think having one read/write mutex for tracing multi
> > link attach/detach should work.
> 
> If you mean to have one global mutex as I proposed above then I don't see
> a downside. It only serializes multiple libbpf calls.

we also need to serialize it with standard single trampoline attach,
because the direct ftrace update is now done under trampoline->mutex:

  bpf_trampoline_link_prog(tr)
  {
    mutex_lock(&tr->mutex);
    ...
    update_ftrace_direct_*
    ...
    mutex_unlock(&tr->mutex);
  }

for tracing_multi we would link the program first (with tr->mutex)
and do the bulk ftrace update later (without tr->mutex)

  {
    for each involved trampoline:
      bpf_trampoline_link_prog

    --> and here we could race with some other thread doing single
        trampoline attach

    update_ftrace_direct_*
  }

note the current version locks all tr->mutex instances all the way
through the update_ftrace_direct_* update

I think we could use global rwsem and take read lock on single
trampoline attach path and write lock on tracing_multi attach,

I thought we could take direct_mutex early, but that would mean
different order with trampoline mutex than we already have in
single attach path

or just sort those btf ids

jirka

  reply	other threads:[~2026-02-04 12:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-03  9:38 [RFC bpf-next 00/12] bpf: tracing_multi link Jiri Olsa
2026-02-03  9:38 ` [RFC bpf-next 01/12] ftrace: Add ftrace_hash_count function Jiri Olsa
2026-02-03 15:40   ` Steven Rostedt
2026-02-04 12:06     ` Jiri Olsa
2026-02-03  9:38 ` [RFC bpf-next 02/12] bpf: Add struct bpf_trampoline_ops object Jiri Olsa
2026-02-03  9:38 ` [RFC bpf-next 03/12] bpf: Add struct bpf_struct_ops_tramp_link object Jiri Olsa
2026-02-03  9:38 ` [RFC bpf-next 04/12] bpf: Add struct bpf_tramp_node object Jiri Olsa
2026-02-04 19:00   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2026-02-05  8:57     ` Jiri Olsa
2026-02-05 22:27       ` Andrii Nakryiko
2026-02-06  8:27         ` Jiri Olsa
2026-02-03  9:38 ` [RFC bpf-next 05/12] bpf: Add multi tracing attach types Jiri Olsa
2026-02-03 10:13   ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-02-17 22:05     ` Jiri Olsa
2026-02-04  2:20   ` Leon Hwang
2026-02-04 12:41     ` Jiri Olsa
2026-02-03  9:38 ` [RFC bpf-next 06/12] bpf: Add bpf_trampoline_multi_attach/detach functions Jiri Olsa
2026-02-03 10:14   ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-02-17 22:05     ` Jiri Olsa
2026-02-05  9:16   ` Menglong Dong
2026-02-05 13:45     ` Jiri Olsa
2026-02-11  8:04       ` Menglong Dong
2026-02-03  9:38 ` [RFC bpf-next 07/12] bpf: Add support to create tracing multi link Jiri Olsa
2026-02-03 10:13   ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-02-17 22:05     ` Jiri Olsa
2026-02-04 19:05   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2026-02-05  8:55     ` Jiri Olsa
2026-02-03  9:38 ` [RFC bpf-next 08/12] libbpf: Add btf__find_by_glob_kind function Jiri Olsa
2026-02-03 10:14   ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-02-04 19:04   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2026-02-05  8:57     ` Jiri Olsa
2026-02-05 22:45       ` Andrii Nakryiko
2026-02-06  8:43         ` Jiri Olsa
2026-02-06 16:58           ` Andrii Nakryiko
2026-02-03  9:38 ` [RFC bpf-next 09/12] libbpf: Add support to create tracing multi link Jiri Olsa
2026-02-03 10:14   ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-02-17 22:05     ` Jiri Olsa
2026-02-04 19:05   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2026-02-17 22:06     ` Jiri Olsa
2026-02-03  9:38 ` [RFC bpf-next 10/12] selftests/bpf: Add fentry tracing multi func test Jiri Olsa
2026-02-03 10:13   ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-02-17 22:06     ` Jiri Olsa
2026-02-03  9:38 ` [RFC bpf-next 11/12] selftests/bpf: Add fentry intersected " Jiri Olsa
2026-02-03  9:38 ` [RFC bpf-next 12/12] selftests/bpf: Add tracing multi benchmark test Jiri Olsa
2026-02-03 10:13   ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-02-17 22:06     ` Jiri Olsa
2026-02-03 23:17 ` [RFC bpf-next 00/12] bpf: tracing_multi link Alexei Starovoitov
2026-02-04 12:36   ` Jiri Olsa [this message]
2026-02-04 16:06     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-02-05  8:55       ` Jiri Olsa
2026-02-05 15:55         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-02-06  8:18           ` Jiri Olsa
2026-02-06 17:03             ` Andrii Nakryiko
2026-02-08 20:54               ` Jiri Olsa

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