From: Jiri Olsa <olsajiri@gmail.com>
To: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>
Cc: Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>, bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-trace-kernel <linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Martin KaFai Lau <kafai@fb.com>,
Eduard Zingerman <eddyz87@gmail.com>,
Song Liu <songliubraving@fb.com>, Yonghong Song <yhs@fb.com>,
Menglong Dong <menglong8.dong@gmail.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC bpf-next 00/12] bpf: tracing_multi link
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2026 13:36:49 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aYM9YUl6xf9I2x4c@krava> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAADnVQ+EU_f4LVDQkqkB0Q+QYMBH5ynXU3+rGZA2XCGmYMcFqg@mail.gmail.com>
On Tue, Feb 03, 2026 at 03:17:05PM -0800, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 3, 2026 at 1:38 AM Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > hi,
> > as an option to Meglong's change [1] I'm sending proposal for tracing_multi
> > link that does not add static trampoline but attaches program to all needed
> > trampolines.
> >
> > This approach keeps the same performance but has some drawbacks:
> >
> > - when attaching 20k functions we allocate and attach 20k trampolines
> > - during attachment we hold each trampoline mutex, so for above
> > 20k functions we will hold 20k mutexes during the attachment,
> > should be very prone to deadlock, but haven't hit it yet
>
> If you check that it's sorted and always take them in the same order
> then there will be no deadlock.
> Or just grab one global mutex first and then grab trampolines mutexes
> next in any order. The global one will serialize this attach operation.
>
> > It looks the trampoline allocations/generation might not be big a problem
> > and I'll try to find a solution for holding that many mutexes. If there's
> > no better solution I think having one read/write mutex for tracing multi
> > link attach/detach should work.
>
> If you mean to have one global mutex as I proposed above then I don't see
> a downside. It only serializes multiple libbpf calls.
we also need to serialize it with standard single trampoline attach,
because the direct ftrace update is now done under trampoline->mutex:
bpf_trampoline_link_prog(tr)
{
mutex_lock(&tr->mutex);
...
update_ftrace_direct_*
...
mutex_unlock(&tr->mutex);
}
for tracing_multi we would link the program first (with tr->mutex)
and do the bulk ftrace update later (without tr->mutex)
{
for each involved trampoline:
bpf_trampoline_link_prog
--> and here we could race with some other thread doing single
trampoline attach
update_ftrace_direct_*
}
note the current version locks all tr->mutex instances all the way
through the update_ftrace_direct_* update
I think we could use global rwsem and take read lock on single
trampoline attach path and write lock on tracing_multi attach,
I thought we could take direct_mutex early, but that would mean
different order with trampoline mutex than we already have in
single attach path
or just sort those btf ids
jirka
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-02-04 12:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-02-03 9:38 [RFC bpf-next 00/12] bpf: tracing_multi link Jiri Olsa
2026-02-03 9:38 ` [RFC bpf-next 01/12] ftrace: Add ftrace_hash_count function Jiri Olsa
2026-02-03 15:40 ` Steven Rostedt
2026-02-04 12:06 ` Jiri Olsa
2026-02-03 9:38 ` [RFC bpf-next 02/12] bpf: Add struct bpf_trampoline_ops object Jiri Olsa
2026-02-03 9:38 ` [RFC bpf-next 03/12] bpf: Add struct bpf_struct_ops_tramp_link object Jiri Olsa
2026-02-03 9:38 ` [RFC bpf-next 04/12] bpf: Add struct bpf_tramp_node object Jiri Olsa
2026-02-04 19:00 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2026-02-05 8:57 ` Jiri Olsa
2026-02-05 22:27 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2026-02-06 8:27 ` Jiri Olsa
2026-02-03 9:38 ` [RFC bpf-next 05/12] bpf: Add multi tracing attach types Jiri Olsa
2026-02-03 10:13 ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-02-17 22:05 ` Jiri Olsa
2026-02-04 2:20 ` Leon Hwang
2026-02-04 12:41 ` Jiri Olsa
2026-02-03 9:38 ` [RFC bpf-next 06/12] bpf: Add bpf_trampoline_multi_attach/detach functions Jiri Olsa
2026-02-03 10:14 ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-02-17 22:05 ` Jiri Olsa
2026-02-05 9:16 ` Menglong Dong
2026-02-05 13:45 ` Jiri Olsa
2026-02-11 8:04 ` Menglong Dong
2026-02-03 9:38 ` [RFC bpf-next 07/12] bpf: Add support to create tracing multi link Jiri Olsa
2026-02-03 10:13 ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-02-17 22:05 ` Jiri Olsa
2026-02-04 19:05 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2026-02-05 8:55 ` Jiri Olsa
2026-02-03 9:38 ` [RFC bpf-next 08/12] libbpf: Add btf__find_by_glob_kind function Jiri Olsa
2026-02-03 10:14 ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-02-04 19:04 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2026-02-05 8:57 ` Jiri Olsa
2026-02-05 22:45 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2026-02-06 8:43 ` Jiri Olsa
2026-02-06 16:58 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2026-02-03 9:38 ` [RFC bpf-next 09/12] libbpf: Add support to create tracing multi link Jiri Olsa
2026-02-03 10:14 ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-02-17 22:05 ` Jiri Olsa
2026-02-04 19:05 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2026-02-17 22:06 ` Jiri Olsa
2026-02-03 9:38 ` [RFC bpf-next 10/12] selftests/bpf: Add fentry tracing multi func test Jiri Olsa
2026-02-03 10:13 ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-02-17 22:06 ` Jiri Olsa
2026-02-03 9:38 ` [RFC bpf-next 11/12] selftests/bpf: Add fentry intersected " Jiri Olsa
2026-02-03 9:38 ` [RFC bpf-next 12/12] selftests/bpf: Add tracing multi benchmark test Jiri Olsa
2026-02-03 10:13 ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-02-17 22:06 ` Jiri Olsa
2026-02-03 23:17 ` [RFC bpf-next 00/12] bpf: tracing_multi link Alexei Starovoitov
2026-02-04 12:36 ` Jiri Olsa [this message]
2026-02-04 16:06 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-02-05 8:55 ` Jiri Olsa
2026-02-05 15:55 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-02-06 8:18 ` Jiri Olsa
2026-02-06 17:03 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2026-02-08 20:54 ` Jiri Olsa
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