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From: Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>
To: Ian Rogers <irogers@google.com>
Cc: acme@kernel.org, james.clark@linaro.org, 9erthalion6@gmail.com,
	adrian.hunter@intel.com, alex@ghiti.fr,
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	peterz@infradead.org, pjw@kernel.org, qmo@kernel.org,
	ricky.ringler@proton.me, song@kernel.org, swapnil.sapkal@amd.com,
	terrelln@fb.com, tglozar@redhat.com, thomas.falcon@intel.com,
	yonghong.song@linux.dev
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 00/17] perf build: Reduce build time by nearly half
Date: Fri, 15 May 2026 11:20:35 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <agdj81gaSSWyJkQI@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAP-5=fUJFRcXFdpSy_X23NSU7zMp9SVZEqX+cEBsKP9YARGRvA@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, May 14, 2026 at 03:23:34PM -0700, Ian Rogers wrote:
> On Thu, May 14, 2026 at 3:06 PM Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, May 14, 2026 at 09:33:52AM -0700, Ian Rogers wrote:
> > > This patch series refactors Kbuild internals, BPF skeleton generation,
> > > Python AST pre-computation, and foundational tooling dependencies across
> > > the perf tool build system. By eliminating umbrella target synchronization
> > > barriers, decoupling static library prerequisites, parallelizing single-core
> > > script generators, and eradicating redundant feature checks, this series
> > > unlocks absolute theoretical peak multi-core concurrency during Kbuild startup.
> > >
> > > On a 28-core build workstation (make -j28 all from scratch), clean build
> > > latency improves by over 49%:
> > >
> > >   Before:
> > >     real    0m29.006s
> > >     user    2m46.019s
> > >     sys     0m30.610s
> > >
> > >   After:
> > >     real    0m14.782s
> > >     user    2m39.527s
> > >     sys     0m22.938s
> > >
> > > Saving 14.2 full seconds time per clean build. Furthermore, nothing to
> > > build incremental builds are improved by nearly 7x:
> > >
> > >   Before:
> > >     real    0m11.528s
> > >     user    0m9.633s
> > >     sys     0m6.965s
> > >
> > >   After:
> > >     real    0m1.729s
> > >     user    0m1.600s
> > >     sys     0m0.884s
> >
> > I've quickly checked it with latency profiling like below:
> >
> >   $ perf record --latency -- make -C tools/perf
> >
> >   $ perf report --latency -s comm
> >
> > The result looks like this.
> >
> > Before:
> >   #
> >   # Samples: 715K of event 'cpu/cycles/Pu'
> >   # Event count (approx.): 422452811481
> >   #
> >   #  Latency  Overhead  Command
> >   # ........  ........  ...............
> >   #
> >       45.28%    71.33%  cc1
> >       34.48%    16.92%  python3
> >       11.15%     2.21%  ld
> >        2.58%     1.51%  x86_64-linux-gn
> >        2.22%     0.99%  cc1plus
> >        0.71%     0.63%  sh
> >        0.69%     0.14%  llvm-config
> >        0.62%     0.56%  clang
> >        0.57%     4.40%  shellcheck
> >        0.44%     0.12%  perl
> >
> > After:
> >   #
> >   # Samples: 709K of event 'cpu/cycles/Pu'
> >   # Event count (approx.): 416654798495
> >   #
> >   #  Latency  Overhead  Command
> >   # ........  ........  ...............
> >   #
> >       64.99%    71.16%  cc1
> >       15.07%     1.81%  ld
> >        7.14%    17.59%  python3
> >        3.66%     1.53%  x86_64-linux-gn
> >        3.48%     0.75%  cc1plus
> >        1.11%     4.43%  shellcheck
> >        1.09%     0.74%  sh
> >        0.86%     0.59%  clang
> >        0.77%     0.12%  perl
> >        0.45%     0.23%  make
> >
> > Now I see a big drop in the latency from python.  And the llvm-config
> > doesn't show up in the top 10.
> 
> This looks good. What is "x86_64-linux-gn", and since we default off
> LIBPERL, why does perl show up in the commands?

I don't know exactly, but it seems we have some path to run perl during
the build even LIBPERL is off.  This is what `perf report --tasks` shows.

   3577076  3577076  3576925 |    sh
   3577077  3577077  3577076 |     make
   3577078  3577078  3577077 |      sh
   3577079  3577079  3577078 |       gcc
   3577081  3577081  3577079 |        cc1
   3577080  3577080  3577078 |       grep
   3577082  3577082  3577077 |      which
   3577083  3577083  3577077 |      sh
   3577084  3577084  3577083 |       perl
   3577085  3577085  3577077 |      sh
   3577086  3577086  3577085 |       perl
   3577087  3577087  3577086 |        pwd
   3577088  3577088  3577086 |        sh
   3577089  3577089  3577088 |         x86_64-linux-gn
   3577090  3577090  3577089 |          cc1

Thanks,
Namhyung


  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-05-15 18:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 120+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-12  5:35 [PATCH v1 00/14] perf build: Reduce build time by one third Ian Rogers
2026-05-12  5:35 ` [PATCH v1 01/14] bpftool build: Restrict feature tests during bootstrap compilation Ian Rogers
2026-05-12  5:35 ` [PATCH v1 02/14] perf trace beauty: Make beauty generated C code standalone .o files Ian Rogers
2026-05-13  5:21   ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-12  5:35 ` [PATCH v1 03/14] perf build: Decouple pmu-events from prepare umbrella target Ian Rogers
2026-05-12  5:35 ` [PATCH v1 04/14] perf build: Remove empty archheaders target Ian Rogers
2026-05-12  5:35 ` [PATCH v1 05/14] perf build: Move BPF skeleton generation out of Makefile.perf Ian Rogers
2026-05-13 19:52   ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-12  5:35 ` [PATCH v1 06/14] perf build: Encapsulate vmlinux.h and bpftool in bpf_skel.mak Ian Rogers
2026-05-13 20:09   ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-12  5:35 ` [PATCH v1 07/14] perf build: Move static libbpf dependency out of prepare step Ian Rogers
2026-05-13 20:36   ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-12  5:35 ` [PATCH v1 08/14] perf build: Pre-generate BPF skeletons during umbrella prepare phase Ian Rogers
2026-05-12  5:35 ` [PATCH v1 09/14] perf build: Move libsymbol dependency out of prepare step Ian Rogers
2026-05-13 21:11   ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-12  5:35 ` [PATCH v1 10/14] perf build: Remove redundant libbpf feature check for static builds Ian Rogers
2026-05-12  5:35 ` [PATCH v1 11/14] tools build: Integrate libdebuginfod into test-all fast path Ian Rogers
2026-05-13 21:40   ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-12  5:35 ` [PATCH v1 12/14] perf pmu-events: Split big_c_string storage into standalone compilation unit Ian Rogers
2026-05-13 21:56   ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-12  5:35 ` [PATCH v1 13/14] perf pmu-events: Parallelize JSON and metric pre-computation in jevents.py Ian Rogers
2026-05-13 22:18   ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-12  5:35 ` [PATCH v1 14/14] perf build: Prefix SCRIPTS with output directory to fix continuous rebuilds Ian Rogers
2026-05-12 17:46   ` [PATCH v2 00/18] perf build: Reduce build time by nearly half Ian Rogers
2026-05-12 17:46     ` [PATCH v2 01/18] bpftool build: Restrict feature tests during bootstrap compilation Ian Rogers
2026-05-12 17:46     ` [PATCH v2 02/18] tools build: Integrate libdebuginfod into test-all fast path Ian Rogers
2026-05-13 23:59       ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-12 17:46     ` [PATCH v2 03/18] tools build: Fix test-clang-bpf-co-re.bin to generate target file Ian Rogers
2026-05-14  0:15       ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-12 17:46     ` [PATCH v2 04/18] tools scripts: Short-circuit CC_NO_CLANG compiler probe in Makefile.include Ian Rogers
2026-05-14  0:28       ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-12 17:46     ` [PATCH v2 05/18] perf trace beauty: Make beauty generated C code standalone .o files Ian Rogers
2026-05-14  0:50       ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-12 17:46     ` [PATCH v2 06/18] perf build: Decouple pmu-events from prepare umbrella target Ian Rogers
2026-05-12 17:46     ` [PATCH v2 07/18] perf build: Remove empty archheaders target Ian Rogers
2026-05-12 17:46     ` [PATCH v2 08/18] perf build: Move BPF skeleton generation out of Makefile.perf Ian Rogers
2026-05-14  1:55       ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-12 17:46     ` [PATCH v2 09/18] perf build: Encapsulate vmlinux.h and bpftool in bpf_skel.mak Ian Rogers
2026-05-12 17:46     ` [PATCH v2 10/18] perf build: Move static libbpf dependency out of prepare step Ian Rogers
2026-05-14  3:02       ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-12 17:46     ` [PATCH v2 11/18] perf build: Pre-generate BPF skeleton tooling during umbrella prepare phase Ian Rogers
2026-05-14  3:39       ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-12 17:46     ` [PATCH v2 12/18] perf build: Move libsymbol dependency out of prepare step Ian Rogers
2026-05-12 17:46     ` [PATCH v2 13/18] perf build: Remove redundant libbpf feature check for static builds Ian Rogers
2026-05-12 17:46     ` [PATCH v2 14/18] perf pmu-events: Split big_c_string storage into standalone compilation unit Ian Rogers
2026-05-14  4:35       ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-12 17:46     ` [PATCH v2 15/18] perf pmu-events: Parallelize JSON and metric pre-computation in jevents.py Ian Rogers
2026-05-14  5:06       ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-12 17:46     ` [PATCH v2 16/18] perf build: Prefix SCRIPTS with output directory to fix continuous rebuilds Ian Rogers
2026-05-12 17:46     ` [PATCH v2 17/18] perf pmu-events: Convert recursive shell assignments and macros to Make built-ins Ian Rogers
2026-05-12 17:46     ` [PATCH v2 18/18] perf build: Convert llvm-config shell queries to simply expanded variables Ian Rogers
2026-05-14 16:33     ` [PATCH v3 00/17] perf build: Reduce build time by nearly half Ian Rogers
2026-05-14 16:33       ` [PATCH v3 01/17] bpftool build: Restrict feature tests during bootstrap compilation Ian Rogers
2026-05-14 16:33       ` [PATCH v3 02/17] tools build: Integrate libdebuginfod into test-all fast path Ian Rogers
2026-05-14 20:55         ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-14 16:33       ` [PATCH v3 03/17] tools build: Fix test-clang-bpf-co-re.bin to generate target file Ian Rogers
2026-05-14 21:10         ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-14 16:33       ` [PATCH v3 04/17] perf trace beauty: Make beauty generated C code standalone .o files Ian Rogers
2026-05-14 16:33       ` [PATCH v3 05/17] perf build: Decouple pmu-events from prepare umbrella target Ian Rogers
2026-05-14 16:33       ` [PATCH v3 06/17] perf build: Remove empty archheaders target Ian Rogers
2026-05-14 16:33       ` [PATCH v3 07/17] perf build: Move BPF skeleton generation out of Makefile.perf Ian Rogers
2026-05-14 16:34       ` [PATCH v3 08/17] perf build: Encapsulate vmlinux.h and bpftool in bpf_skel.mak Ian Rogers
2026-05-14 16:34       ` [PATCH v3 09/17] perf build: Move static libbpf dependency out of prepare step Ian Rogers
2026-05-14 23:35         ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-14 16:34       ` [PATCH v3 10/17] perf build: Pre-generate BPF skeleton tooling during umbrella prepare phase Ian Rogers
2026-05-14 23:45         ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-14 16:34       ` [PATCH v3 11/17] perf build: Move libsymbol dependency out of prepare step Ian Rogers
2026-05-14 16:34       ` [PATCH v3 12/17] perf build: Remove redundant libbpf feature check for static builds Ian Rogers
2026-05-14 16:34       ` [PATCH v3 13/17] perf pmu-events: Split big_c_string storage into standalone compilation unit Ian Rogers
2026-05-15  0:39         ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-14 16:34       ` [PATCH v3 14/17] perf pmu-events: Parallelize JSON and metric pre-computation in jevents.py Ian Rogers
2026-05-15  1:00         ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-14 16:34       ` [PATCH v3 15/17] perf build: Prefix SCRIPTS with output directory to fix continuous rebuilds Ian Rogers
2026-05-14 16:34       ` [PATCH v3 16/17] perf pmu-events: Convert recursive shell assignments and macros to Make built-ins Ian Rogers
2026-05-14 16:34       ` [PATCH v3 17/17] perf build: Convert llvm-config shell queries to simply expanded variables Ian Rogers
2026-05-14 22:06       ` [PATCH v3 00/17] perf build: Reduce build time by nearly half Namhyung Kim
2026-05-14 22:23         ` Ian Rogers
2026-05-15 16:20           ` Ian Rogers
2026-05-15 17:38             ` [PATCH v4 00/14] " Ian Rogers
2026-05-15 17:38               ` [PATCH v4 01/14] tools build: Fix feature checks to touch target files on success Ian Rogers
2026-05-15 18:04                 ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-15 17:38               ` [PATCH v4 02/14] perf trace beauty: Make beauty generated C code standalone .o files Ian Rogers
2026-05-15 18:45                 ` Namhyung Kim
2026-05-15 17:38               ` [PATCH v4 03/14] perf build: Decouple pmu-events from prepare umbrella target Ian Rogers
2026-05-15 17:38               ` [PATCH v4 04/14] perf build: Remove empty archheaders target Ian Rogers
2026-05-15 17:38               ` [PATCH v4 05/14] perf build: Move BPF skeleton generation out of Makefile.perf Ian Rogers
2026-05-15 17:38               ` [PATCH v4 06/14] perf build: Encapsulate vmlinux.h and bpftool in bpf_skel.mak Ian Rogers
2026-05-15 17:38               ` [PATCH v4 07/14] perf build: Pre-generate BPF skeleton tooling during umbrella prepare phase Ian Rogers
2026-05-15 17:38               ` [PATCH v4 08/14] perf build: Move libsymbol dependency out of prepare step Ian Rogers
2026-05-15 18:30                 ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-15 17:38               ` [PATCH v4 09/14] perf build: Remove redundant libbpf feature check for static builds Ian Rogers
2026-05-15 17:38               ` [PATCH v4 10/14] perf pmu-events: Split big_c_string storage into standalone compilation unit Ian Rogers
2026-05-15 18:09                 ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-15 17:38               ` [PATCH v4 11/14] perf pmu-events: Parallelize JSON and metric pre-computation in jevents.py Ian Rogers
2026-05-15 18:32                 ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-15 19:41                 ` Namhyung Kim
2026-05-15 17:38               ` [PATCH v4 12/14] perf build: Prefix SCRIPTS with output directory to fix continuous rebuilds Ian Rogers
2026-05-15 19:48                 ` Namhyung Kim
2026-05-15 17:38               ` [PATCH v4 13/14] perf pmu-events: Convert recursive shell assignments and macros to Make built-ins Ian Rogers
2026-05-15 17:38               ` [PATCH v4 14/14] perf build: Convert llvm-config shell queries to simply expanded variables Ian Rogers
2026-05-15 19:33               ` [PATCH v5 00/14] perf build: Reduce build time by nearly half Ian Rogers
2026-05-15 19:33                 ` [PATCH v5 01/14] tools build: Fix feature checks to touch target files on success Ian Rogers
2026-05-15 19:33                 ` [PATCH v5 02/14] perf trace beauty: Make beauty generated C code standalone .o files Ian Rogers
2026-05-15 19:33                 ` [PATCH v5 03/14] perf build: Decouple pmu-events from prepare umbrella target Ian Rogers
2026-05-15 19:33                 ` [PATCH v5 04/14] perf build: Remove empty archheaders target Ian Rogers
2026-05-15 19:33                 ` [PATCH v5 05/14] perf build: Move BPF skeleton generation out of Makefile.perf Ian Rogers
2026-05-15 19:33                 ` [PATCH v5 06/14] perf build: Encapsulate vmlinux.h and bpftool in bpf_skel.mak Ian Rogers
2026-05-15 19:33                 ` [PATCH v5 07/14] perf build: Pre-generate BPF skeleton tooling during umbrella prepare phase Ian Rogers
2026-05-15 19:33                 ` [PATCH v5 08/14] perf build: Move libsymbol dependency out of prepare step Ian Rogers
2026-05-15 19:53                   ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-15 19:33                 ` [PATCH v5 09/14] perf build: Remove redundant libbpf feature check for static builds Ian Rogers
2026-05-15 19:33                 ` [PATCH v5 10/14] perf pmu-events: Split big_c_string storage into standalone compilation unit Ian Rogers
2026-05-15 19:58                   ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-15 19:33                 ` [PATCH v5 11/14] perf pmu-events: Parallelize JSON and metric pre-computation in jevents.py Ian Rogers
2026-05-15 20:22                   ` sashiko-bot
2026-05-15 19:33                 ` [PATCH v5 12/14] perf build: Prefix SCRIPTS with output directory to fix continuous rebuilds Ian Rogers
2026-05-15 19:33                 ` [PATCH v5 13/14] perf pmu-events: Convert recursive shell assignments and macros to Make built-ins Ian Rogers
2026-05-15 19:33                 ` [PATCH v5 14/14] perf build: Convert llvm-config shell queries to simply expanded variables Ian Rogers
2026-05-15 18:20           ` Namhyung Kim [this message]
2026-05-12  9:36 ` [PATCH v1 00/14] perf build: Reduce build time by one third James Clark

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