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From: Justin Suess <utilityemal77@gmail.com>
To: Anastasios Papagiannis <tasos.papagiannnis@gmail.com>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, andrii@kernel.org, ast@kernel.org,
	 bpf@vger.kernel.org, brauner@kernel.org, daniel@iogearbox.net,
	david@kernel.org,  eddyz87@gmail.com, kpsingh@kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,  linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, matt@bobrowski.net, memxor@gmail.com,
	 song@kernel.org, viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next 2/3] bpf: Add user memory access kfuncs for linux_binprm
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2026 17:34:10 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aoTMu0_CNLyLGh45@zenbox> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260818082441.4091-1-tasos.papagiannnis@gmail.com>

On Tue, Aug 18, 2026 at 11:24:41AM +0300, Anastasios Papagiannis wrote:
> Thanks for the review!
> 
> > Would it be better to handle that case transparently rather than
> > requiring introducing a new kfunc / leaving that gap open for NOMMU?
> 
> > Either return an error or perform the copy from bprm->page[].
> 
> > Unless there's some reason I'm not seeing.
> 
> My understanding is that there is currently no way to use these kfuncs
> on a NOMMU system. Although CONFIG_BPF_LSM does not directly depend on
> CONFIG_MMU, as far as I can tell, no current NOMMU architecture provides
> the required support to use them. For this reason even if I write that
> code, this cannot be tested.
> 
> > It would also be better for portability across NOMMU / CONFIG_MMU
> > systems (the exisiting kfunc is never registered, so a program using it
> > would be rejected rather than able to handle the error).
> 
> As you suggested, I would propose to register those kfuncs
> unconditionally, move the ifdefs inside those kfuncs, in the case
> of NOMMU return an error (e.g. -EOPNOTSUPP) and allow the programs to
> handle those.
> 
> Does this sound reasonable?
>
Yes that does. It's a small niche anyway (I don't think a lot of people
are using BPF and NOMMU anyway, and BPF_LSM && !MMU is unsatisfiable
unless RISC-V or some other architecture gets JIT support in nommu)

And when/if (big if) it does, they wouldn't even need this kfunc and could
bpf_probe_read_kernel() bprm->page[] directly.

So an error is best. 

Justin
> Thanks,
> Anastasios

  reply	other threads:[~2026-08-18 21:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-08-12 11:11 [PATCH bpf-next 0/3] bpf: Add user memory access kfuncs for linux_binprm Anastasios Papagiannis
2026-08-12 11:11 ` [PATCH bpf-next 1/3] mm: Add copy_remote_mm_str() Anastasios Papagiannis
2026-08-12 12:03   ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-08-12 11:11 ` [PATCH bpf-next 2/3] bpf: Add user memory access kfuncs for linux_binprm Anastasios Papagiannis
2026-08-12 12:18   ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-08-12 18:40   ` Justin Suess
2026-08-18  8:24     ` Anastasios Papagiannis
2026-08-18 21:34       ` Justin Suess [this message]
2026-08-12 11:11 ` [PATCH bpf-next 3/3] selftests/bpf: Test linux_binprm user memory kfuncs Anastasios Papagiannis
2026-08-12 12:18   ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-08-12 18:42   ` Justin Suess

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