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From: Eduard Zingerman <eddyz87@gmail.com>
To: Andrii Nakryiko <andrii.nakryiko@gmail.com>
Cc: Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>,
	bpf@vger.kernel.org, ast@kernel.org,  daniel@iogearbox.net,
	martin.lau@kernel.org, kernel-team@meta.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next 3/7] bpf: enforce precision for r0 on callback return
Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2023 19:38:09 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b335aa904dca981058e1db92b6270960f2a28948.camel@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEf4BzY1-mcN5Wjf4-FOKQvnom+0EV=a=cGxvBO9=rbCS0kzwA@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, 2023-11-09 at 09:32 -0800, Andrii Nakryiko wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 9, 2023 at 7:20 AM Eduard Zingerman <eddyz87@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > On Mon, 2023-10-30 at 22:03 -0700, Andrii Nakryiko wrote:
> > > > Given verifier checks actual value, r0 has to be precise, so we need to
> > > > propagate precision properly.
> > > > 
> > > > Fixes: 69c087ba6225 ("bpf: Add bpf_for_each_map_elem() helper")
> > > > Signed-off-by: Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>
> > 
> > I don't follow why this is necessary, could you please conjure
> > an example showing that current behavior is not safe?
> > This example could be used as a test case, as this change
> > seems to not be covered by test cases.
> 
> We rely on callbacks to return specific value (0 or 1, for example),
> and use or might use that in kernel code. So if we rely on the
> specific value of a register, it has to be precise. Marking r0 as
> precise will have implications on other registers from which r0 was
> derived. This might have implications on state pruning and stuff. If
> r0 and its ancestors are not precise, we might erroneously assume some
> states are safe and prune them, even though they are not.

The r0 returned from bpf_loop's callback says bpf_loop to stop iteration,
bpf_loop returns the number of completed iterations. However, the return
value of bpf_loop modeled by verifier is unbounded scalar.
Same for map's for each.

I'm not sure we have callback calling functions that can expose this as a
safety issue.

[...]

  reply	other threads:[~2023-11-09 17:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-31  5:03 [PATCH bpf-next 0/7] Complete BPF verifier precision tracking support for register spills Andrii Nakryiko
2023-10-31  5:03 ` [PATCH bpf-next 1/7] bpf: use common jump (instruction) history across all states Andrii Nakryiko
2023-11-09 15:20   ` Eduard Zingerman
2023-11-09 16:13     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2023-11-09 17:28       ` Andrii Nakryiko
2023-11-09 19:29         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2023-11-09 19:49           ` Andrii Nakryiko
2023-11-09 20:39             ` Andrii Nakryiko
2023-11-09 22:05               ` Alexei Starovoitov
2023-11-09 22:57                 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2023-11-11  4:29                   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2023-10-31  5:03 ` [PATCH bpf-next 2/7] bpf: support non-r10 register spill/fill to/from stack in precision tracking Andrii Nakryiko
2023-11-09 15:20   ` Eduard Zingerman
2023-11-09 17:20     ` Andrii Nakryiko
2023-11-09 18:20       ` Eduard Zingerman
2023-11-10  5:48         ` Andrii Nakryiko
2023-11-12  1:57           ` Andrii Nakryiko
2023-11-12 14:05             ` Eduard Zingerman
2023-10-31  5:03 ` [PATCH bpf-next 3/7] bpf: enforce precision for r0 on callback return Andrii Nakryiko
2023-11-09 15:20   ` Eduard Zingerman
2023-11-09 17:32     ` Andrii Nakryiko
2023-11-09 17:38       ` Eduard Zingerman [this message]
2023-11-09 17:50         ` Andrii Nakryiko
2023-11-09 17:58           ` Alexei Starovoitov
2023-11-09 18:01             ` Andrii Nakryiko
2023-11-09 18:03               ` Eduard Zingerman
2023-11-09 18:00           ` Eduard Zingerman
2023-10-31  5:03 ` [PATCH bpf-next 4/7] bpf: fix check for attempt to corrupt spilled pointer Andrii Nakryiko
2023-11-09 15:20   ` Eduard Zingerman
2023-10-31  5:03 ` [PATCH bpf-next 5/7] bpf: preserve STACK_ZERO slots on partial reg spills Andrii Nakryiko
2023-11-09 15:20   ` Eduard Zingerman
2023-11-09 17:37     ` Andrii Nakryiko
2023-11-09 17:54       ` Eduard Zingerman
2023-10-31  5:03 ` [PATCH bpf-next 6/7] bpf: preserve constant zero when doing partial register restore Andrii Nakryiko
2023-11-09 15:20   ` Eduard Zingerman
2023-11-09 17:41     ` Andrii Nakryiko
2023-11-09 19:34       ` Eduard Zingerman
2023-10-31  5:03 ` [PATCH bpf-next 7/7] bpf: track aligned STACK_ZERO cases as imprecise spilled registers Andrii Nakryiko
2023-10-31  5:22   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2023-11-01  7:56     ` Jiri Olsa
2023-11-01 16:27       ` Andrii Nakryiko
2023-11-02  9:54         ` Jiri Olsa
2023-11-09 15:21   ` Eduard Zingerman
2023-11-09 17:43     ` Andrii Nakryiko
2023-11-09 17:44       ` Eduard Zingerman

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