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From: Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>
To: Jason Xing <kerneljasonxing@gmail.com>,
	davem@davemloft.net, edumazet@google.com, kuba@kernel.org,
	bjorn@kernel.org, magnus.karlsson@intel.com,
	maciej.fijalkowski@intel.com, jonathan.lemon@gmail.com,
	sdf@fomichev.me, ast@kernel.org, daniel@iogearbox.net,
	hawk@kernel.org, john.fastabend@gmail.com
Cc: bpf@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	Jason Xing <kernelxing@tencent.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v3] xsk: skip validating skb list in xmit path
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2025 13:02:00 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b859fd65-d7bb-45bf-b7f8-e6701c418c1f@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251125115754.46793-1-kerneljasonxing@gmail.com>

On 11/25/25 12:57 PM, Jason Xing wrote:
> This patch also removes total ~4% consumption which can be observed
> by perf:
> |--2.97%--validate_xmit_skb
> |          |
> |           --1.76%--netif_skb_features
> |                     |
> |                      --0.65%--skb_network_protocol
> |
> |--1.06%--validate_xmit_xfrm
> 
> The above result has been verfied on different NICs, like I40E. I
> managed to see the number is going up by 4%.

I must admit this delta is surprising, and does not fit my experience in
slightly different scenarios with the plain UDP TX path.

> [1] - analysis of the validate_xmit_skb()
> 1. validate_xmit_unreadable_skb()
>    xsk doesn't initialize skb->unreadable, so the function will not free
>    the skb.
> 2. validate_xmit_vlan()
>    xsk also doesn't initialize skb->vlan_all.
> 3. sk_validate_xmit_skb()
>    skb from xsk_build_skb() doesn't have either sk_validate_xmit_skb or
>    sk_state, so the skb will not be validated.
> 4. netif_needs_gso()
>    af_xdp doesn't support gso/tso.
> 5. skb_needs_linearize() && __skb_linearize()
>    skb doesn't have frag_list as always, so skb_has_frag_list() returns
>    false. In copy mode, skb can put more data in the frags[] that can be
>    found in xsk_build_skb_zerocopy().

I'm not sure  parse this last sentence correctly, could you please
re-phrase?

I read it as as the xsk xmit path could build skb with nr_frags > 0.
That in turn will need validation from
validate_xmit_skb()/skb_needs_linearize() depending on the egress device
(lack of NETIF_F_SG), regardless of any other offload required.

/P


  reply	other threads:[~2025-11-27 12:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-11-25 11:57 [PATCH net-next v3] xsk: skip validating skb list in xmit path Jason Xing
2025-11-27 12:02 ` Paolo Abeni [this message]
2025-11-27 12:49   ` Jason Xing
2025-11-27 17:58     ` Paolo Abeni
2025-11-28  1:44       ` Jason Xing
2025-11-28  8:40         ` Paolo Abeni
2025-11-28 12:59           ` Jason Xing

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