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From: Kui-Feng Lee <sinquersw@gmail.com>
To: Stanislav Fomichev <sdf@google.com>
Cc: kuifeng@meta.com, bpf@vger.kernel.org, ast@kernel.org,
	martin.lau@linux.dev, song@kernel.org, kernel-team@meta.com,
	andrii@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC bpf-next 1/5] bpf: enable sleepable BPF programs attached to cgroup/{get,set}sockopt.
Date: Tue, 1 Aug 2023 10:31:42 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <bf361930-7d39-531f-d21a-a4e436b2a544@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKH8qBvcD7r0e-0oZryLHyGnsNnZ66w6tHj5t4Qi1SzONnwN+w@mail.gmail.com>



On 7/31/23 16:35, Stanislav Fomichev wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 31, 2023 at 3:02 PM Kui-Feng Lee <sinquersw@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Sorry for the late reply! I just backed from a vacation.
>>
>>
>> On 7/24/23 11:36, Stanislav Fomichev wrote:
>>> On 07/21, kuifeng@meta.com wrote:
>>>> From: Kui-Feng Lee <kuifeng@meta.com>
>>>>
>>>> Enable sleepable cgroup/{get,set}sockopt hooks.
>>>>
>>>> The sleepable BPF programs attached to cgroup/{get,set}sockopt hooks may
>>>> received a pointer to the optval in user space instead of a kernel
>>>> copy. ctx->user_optval and ctx->user_optval_end are the pointers to the
>>>> begin and end of the user space buffer if receiving a user space
>>>> buffer. ctx->optval and ctx->optval_end will be a kernel copy if receiving
>>>> a kernel space buffer.
>>>>
>>>> A program receives a user space buffer if ctx->flags &
>>>> BPF_SOCKOPT_FLAG_OPTVAL_USER is true, otherwise it receives a kernel space
>>>> buffer.  The BPF programs should not read/write from/to a user space buffer
>>>> dirrectly.  It should access the buffer through bpf_copy_from_user() and
>>>> bpf_copy_to_user() provided in the following patches.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Kui-Feng Lee <kuifeng@meta.com>
>>>> ---
>>>>    include/linux/filter.h         |   3 +
>>>>    include/uapi/linux/bpf.h       |   9 ++
>>>>    kernel/bpf/cgroup.c            | 189 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++-------
>>>>    kernel/bpf/verifier.c          |   7 +-
>>>>    tools/include/uapi/linux/bpf.h |   9 ++
>>>>    tools/lib/bpf/libbpf.c         |   2 +
>>>>    6 files changed, 176 insertions(+), 43 deletions(-)
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/include/linux/filter.h b/include/linux/filter.h
>>>> index f69114083ec7..301dd1ba0de1 100644
>>>> --- a/include/linux/filter.h
>>>> +++ b/include/linux/filter.h
>>>> @@ -1345,6 +1345,9 @@ struct bpf_sockopt_kern {
>>>>       s32             level;
>>>>       s32             optname;
>>>>       s32             optlen;
>>>> +    u32             flags;
>>>> +    u8              *user_optval;
>>>> +    u8              *user_optval_end;
>>>>       /* for retval in struct bpf_cg_run_ctx */
>>>>       struct task_struct *current_task;
>>>>       /* Temporary "register" for indirect stores to ppos. */
>>>> diff --git a/include/uapi/linux/bpf.h b/include/uapi/linux/bpf.h
>>>> index 739c15906a65..b2f81193f97b 100644
>>>> --- a/include/uapi/linux/bpf.h
>>>> +++ b/include/uapi/linux/bpf.h
>>>> @@ -7135,6 +7135,15 @@ struct bpf_sockopt {
>>>>       __s32   optname;
>>>>       __s32   optlen;
>>>>       __s32   retval;
>>>> +
>>>> +    __bpf_md_ptr(void *, user_optval);
>>>> +    __bpf_md_ptr(void *, user_optval_end);
>>>
>>> Can we re-purpose existing optval/optval_end pointers
>>> for the sleepable programs? IOW, when the prog is sleepable,
>>> pass user pointers via optval/optval_end and require the programs
>>> to do copy_to/from on this buffer (even if the backing pointer might be
>>> in kernel memory - we can handle that in the kfuncs?).
>>>
>>> The fact that the program now needs to look at the flag
>>> (BPF_SOCKOPT_FLAG_OPTVAL_USER) and decide which buffer to
>>> use makes the handling even more complicated; and we already have a
>>> bunch of hairy stuff in these hooks. (or I misreading the change?)
>>>
>>> Also, regarding sleepable and non-sleepable co-existence: do we really need
>>> that? Can we say that all the programs have to be sleepable
>>> or non-sleepable? Mixing them complicates the sharing of that buffer.
>>
>> I considered this approach as well. This is an open question for me.
>> If we go this way, it means we can not attach a BPF program of a type
>> if any program of the other type has been installed.
> 
> If we pass two pointers (kernel copy buffer + real user mem) to the
> sleepable program, we'll make it even more complicated by inheriting
> all existing warts of the non-sleepable version :-(
> IOW, feels like we should try to see if we can have some
> copy_to/from_user kfuncs in the sleepable version that transparently
> support either kernel or user memory (and prohibit direct access to
> user_optval in the sleepable version).
> And then, if we have one non-sleepable program in the chain, we can
> fallback everything to the kernel buffer (maybe).
> This way seems like we can support both versions in the same chain and
> have a more sane api?

Basically, you are saying to move cp_from_optval() and cp_to_optval() in
the testcase to kfuncs. This can cause unnecessary copy. We can add
an API to make a dynptr from the ctx to avoid unnecessary copies.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-08-01 17:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-07-22  5:22 [RFC bpf-next 0/5] Sleepable BPF programs on cgroup {get,set}sockopt kuifeng
2023-07-22  5:22 ` [RFC bpf-next 1/5] bpf: enable sleepable BPF programs attached to cgroup/{get,set}sockopt kuifeng
2023-07-24 18:36   ` Stanislav Fomichev
2023-07-31 22:02     ` Kui-Feng Lee
2023-07-31 23:35       ` Stanislav Fomichev
2023-08-01 17:31         ` Kui-Feng Lee [this message]
2023-08-01 18:08           ` Stanislav Fomichev
2023-08-02 22:28             ` Martin KaFai Lau
2023-08-02 19:25   ` Martin KaFai Lau
2023-07-22  5:22 ` [RFC bpf-next 2/5] bpf: Provide bpf_copy_from_user() and bpf_copy_to_user() kuifeng
2023-08-02 19:59   ` Martin KaFai Lau
2023-07-22  5:22 ` [RFC bpf-next 3/5] bpf: Add a new dynptr type for CGRUP_SOCKOPT kuifeng
2023-07-22  5:22 ` [RFC bpf-next 4/5] bpf: Prevent BPF programs from access the buffer pointed by user_optval kuifeng
2023-07-22  5:22 ` [RFC bpf-next 5/5] bpf: Add test cases for sleepable BPF programs of the CGROUP_SOCKOPT type kuifeng

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