From: Lorenzo Stoakes <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com>
To: Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@gmail.com>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, david@redhat.com, ziy@nvidia.com,
baolin.wang@linux.alibaba.com, Liam.Howlett@oracle.com,
npache@redhat.com, ryan.roberts@arm.com, dev.jain@arm.com,
hannes@cmpxchg.org, usamaarif642@gmail.com,
gutierrez.asier@huawei-partners.com, willy@infradead.org,
ast@kernel.org, daniel@iogearbox.net, andrii@kernel.org,
ameryhung@gmail.com, rientjes@google.com, corbet@lwn.net,
bpf@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
linux-doc@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 mm-new 03/10] mm: thp: add a new kfunc bpf_mm_get_task()
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2025 11:43:23 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <bf586bff-a0a1-48ed-9115-b06598a0b0e3@lucifer.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALOAHbBHLLo+Xcd=zJeQp9gvLBnyYWAdeBiqKYKgj424m1Sn6A@mail.gmail.com>
On Thu, Aug 28, 2025 at 02:47:34PM +0800, Yafang Shao wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 27, 2025 at 11:42 PM Lorenzo Stoakes
> <lorenzo.stoakes@oracle.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 26, 2025 at 03:19:41PM +0800, Yafang Shao wrote:
> > > We will utilize this new kfunc bpf_mm_get_task() to retrieve the
> > > associated task_struct from the given @mm. The obtained task_struct must
> > > be released by calling bpf_task_release() as a paired operation.
> >
> > You're basically describing the patch you're not saying why - yeah you're
> > getting a task struct from an mm (only if CONFIG_MEMCG which you don't
> > mention here), but not for what purpose you intend to use this?
>
> For example, we could retrieve task->comm or other attributes and make
> decisions based on that information. I’ll provide a clearer
> description in the next revision.
Thanks!
>
> >
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Yafang Shao <laoar.shao@gmail.com>
> > > ---
> > > mm/bpf_thp.c | 34 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > > 1 file changed, 34 insertions(+)
> > >
> > > diff --git a/mm/bpf_thp.c b/mm/bpf_thp.c
> > > index b757e8f425fd..46b3bc96359e 100644
> > > --- a/mm/bpf_thp.c
> > > +++ b/mm/bpf_thp.c
> > > @@ -205,11 +205,45 @@ __bpf_kfunc void bpf_put_mem_cgroup(struct mem_cgroup *memcg)
> > > #endif
> > > }
> > >
> > > +/**
> > > + * bpf_mm_get_task - Get the task struct associated with a mm_struct.
> > > + * @mm: The mm_struct to query
> > > + *
> > > + * The obtained task_struct must be released by calling bpf_task_release().
> >
> > Hmmm so now bpf programs can cause kernel bugs by keeping a reference around?
> >
> > This feels extremely dodgy, I don't like this at all.
> >
> > I thought the whole point of BPF was that this kind of thing couldn't possibly
> > happen?
> >
> > Or would this be a kernel bug?
> >
> > If a bpf program can lead to a refcount not being put, this is not
> > upstreamable surely?
>
> As explained by Andrii, the BPF verifier can protect it.
Yeah that's nice!
>
> >
> > > + *
> > > + * Return: The associated task_struct on success, or NULL on failure. Note that
> > > + * this function depends on CONFIG_MEMCG being enabled - it will always return
> > > + * NULL if CONFIG_MEMCG is not configured.
> > > + */
> > > +__bpf_kfunc struct task_struct *bpf_mm_get_task(struct mm_struct *mm)
> > > +{
> > > +#ifdef CONFIG_MEMCG
> > > + struct task_struct *task;
> > > +
> > > + if (!mm)
> > > + return NULL;
> > > + rcu_read_lock();
> > > + task = rcu_dereference(mm->owner);
> >
> > > + if (!task)
> > > + goto out;
> > > + if (!refcount_inc_not_zero(&task->rcu_users))
> > > + goto out;
> > > +
> > > + rcu_read_unlock();
> > > + return task;
> > > +
> > > +out:
> > > + rcu_read_unlock();
> > > +#endif
> >
> > This #ifdeffery is horrid, can we please just have separate functions instead of
> > inside the one? Thanks.
> >
> > > + return NULL;
> >
> > So we can't tell the difference between this failling due to CONFIG_MEMCG
> > not being set (in which case it will _always_ fail) or we couldn't get a
> > task or we couldn't get a refcount on the task.
> >
> > Maybe this doesn't matter since perhaps we are only using this if
> > CONFIG_MEMCG but in that case why even expose this if !CONFIG_MEMCG?
> >
>
> As suggested by Andrii, I will remove this kfunc and mark mm->owner as
> BTF_TYPE_SAFE_TRUSTED_OR_NULL.
OK thanks!
>
> Thanks for your comments.
You're welcome :)
>
> --
> Regards
> Yafang
Cheers, Lorenzo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-08-29 10:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-08-26 7:19 [PATCH v6 mm-new 00/10] mm, bpf: BPF based THP order selection Yafang Shao
2025-08-26 7:19 ` [PATCH v6 mm-new 01/10] mm: thp: add support for " Yafang Shao
2025-08-27 2:57 ` kernel test robot
2025-08-27 11:39 ` Yafang Shao
2025-08-27 15:04 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-27 15:03 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-28 5:54 ` Yafang Shao
2025-08-28 10:50 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-29 3:01 ` Yafang Shao
2025-08-29 10:42 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-31 3:11 ` Yafang Shao
2025-09-01 11:39 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-02 2:48 ` Yafang Shao
2025-09-02 7:50 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-09-03 2:10 ` Yafang Shao
2025-08-29 4:56 ` Barry Song
2025-08-29 5:36 ` Yafang Shao
2025-08-26 7:19 ` [PATCH v6 mm-new 02/10] mm: thp: add a new kfunc bpf_mm_get_mem_cgroup() Yafang Shao
2025-08-27 15:34 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-27 20:50 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-08-28 10:40 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-28 16:00 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-08-29 10:45 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-28 6:57 ` Yafang Shao
2025-08-28 10:42 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-29 3:09 ` Yafang Shao
2025-08-27 20:45 ` Shakeel Butt
2025-08-28 6:58 ` Yafang Shao
2025-08-26 7:19 ` [PATCH v6 mm-new 03/10] mm: thp: add a new kfunc bpf_mm_get_task() Yafang Shao
2025-08-27 15:42 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-27 21:50 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2025-08-28 6:50 ` Yafang Shao
2025-08-28 10:51 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-29 3:15 ` Yafang Shao
2025-08-29 10:42 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-28 6:47 ` Yafang Shao
2025-08-29 10:43 ` Lorenzo Stoakes [this message]
2025-08-26 7:19 ` [PATCH v6 mm-new 04/10] bpf: mark vma->vm_mm as trusted Yafang Shao
2025-08-27 15:45 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-28 6:12 ` Yafang Shao
2025-08-28 11:11 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-29 3:05 ` Yafang Shao
2025-08-29 10:49 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-31 3:16 ` Yafang Shao
2025-09-01 10:36 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-26 7:19 ` [PATCH v6 mm-new 05/10] selftests/bpf: add a simple BPF based THP policy Yafang Shao
2025-08-26 7:19 ` [PATCH v6 mm-new 06/10] selftests/bpf: add test case for khugepaged fork Yafang Shao
2025-08-26 7:19 ` [PATCH v6 mm-new 07/10] selftests/bpf: add test case to update thp policy Yafang Shao
2025-08-26 7:19 ` [PATCH v6 mm-new 08/10] selftests/bpf: add test cases for invalid thp_adjust usage Yafang Shao
2025-08-26 7:19 ` [PATCH v6 mm-new 09/10] Documentation: add BPF-based THP adjustment documentation Yafang Shao
2025-08-26 7:19 ` [PATCH v6 mm-new 10/10] MAINTAINERS: add entry for BPF-based THP adjustment Yafang Shao
2025-08-27 15:47 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-28 6:08 ` Yafang Shao
2025-08-26 7:42 ` [PATCH v6 mm-new 00/10] mm, bpf: BPF based THP order selection David Hildenbrand
2025-08-26 8:33 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-26 12:06 ` Yafang Shao
2025-08-26 9:52 ` Usama Arif
2025-08-26 12:10 ` Yafang Shao
2025-08-26 12:03 ` Yafang Shao
2025-08-27 13:14 ` Lorenzo Stoakes
2025-08-28 2:58 ` Yafang Shao
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