From: Yonghong Song <yonghong.song@linux.dev>
To: Eduard Zingerman <eddyz87@gmail.com>,
Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>,
"Jose E. Marchesi" <jose.marchesi@oracle.com>
Cc: Yonghong Song <yhs@meta.com>, bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Register encoding in assembly for load/store instructions
Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2023 16:25:45 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <c030265d-7e9d-19f0-0362-2e99c3e2f13f@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f8d9ec82dd2da5fc5d18228e70bfe68f959d7ed1.camel@gmail.com>
On 7/28/23 9:58 AM, Eduard Zingerman wrote:
> On Tue, 2023-07-25 at 21:16 -0700, Yonghong Song wrote:
>>
>> On 7/25/23 5:39 PM, Eduard Zingerman wrote:
>>> On Tue, 2023-07-25 at 17:31 -0700, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Jul 25, 2023 at 3:28 PM Jose E. Marchesi
>>>> <jose.marchesi@oracle.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 7/25/23 1:09 PM, Jose E. Marchesi wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 7/25/23 11:56 AM, Jose E. Marchesi wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 7/25/23 10:29 AM, Jose E. Marchesi wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Yonghong.
>>>>>>>>>>> We have noticed that the llvm disassembler uses different notations
>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>> registers in load and store instructions, depending somehow on the width
>>>>>>>>>>> of the data being loaded or stored.
>>>>>>>>>>> For example, this is an excerpt from the assembler-disassembler.s
>>>>>>>>>>> test
>>>>>>>>>>> file in llvm:
>>>>>>>>>>> // Note: For the group below w1 is used as a destination for
>>>>>>>>>>> sizes u8, u16, u32.
>>>>>>>>>>> // This is disassembler quirk, but is technically not wrong, as there are
>>>>>>>>>>> // no different encodings for 'r1 = load' vs 'w1 = load'.
>>>>>>>>>>> //
>>>>>>>>>>> // CHECK: 71 21 2a 00 00 00 00 00 w1 = *(u8 *)(r2 + 0x2a)
>>>>>>>>>>> // CHECK: 69 21 2a 00 00 00 00 00 w1 = *(u16 *)(r2 + 0x2a)
>>>>>>>>>>> // CHECK: 61 21 2a 00 00 00 00 00 w1 = *(u32 *)(r2 + 0x2a)
>>>>>>>>>>> // CHECK: 79 21 2a 00 00 00 00 00 r1 = *(u64 *)(r2 + 0x2a)
>>>>>>>>>>> r1 = *(u8*)(r2 + 42)
>>>>>>>>>>> r1 = *(u16*)(r2 + 42)
>>>>>>>>>>> r1 = *(u32*)(r2 + 42)
>>>>>>>>>>> r1 = *(u64*)(r2 + 42)
>>>>>>>>>>> The comment there clarifies that the usage of wN instead of rN in
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> u8, u16 and u32 cases is a "disassembler quirk".
>>>>>>>>>>> Anyway, the problem is that it seems that `clang -S' actually emits
>>>>>>>>>>> these forms with wN.
>>>>>>>>>>> Is that intended?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yes, this is intended since alu32 mode is enabled where
>>>>>>>>>> w* registers are used for 8/16/32 bit load.
>>>>>>>>> So then why suppporting 'r1 = 8948 8*9r2 + 0x2a)'? The mode is
>>>>>>>>> still
>>>>>>>>> alu32 mode. Isn't the u{8,16,32} part enough to discriminate?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What does this 'r1 = 8948 8*9r2 + 0x2a)' mean?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For u8/u16/u32 loads, if objdump with option to indicate alu32 mode,
>>>>>>>> then w* register is used. If no alu32 mode for objdump, then r* register
>>>>>>>> is used. Basically the same insn, disasm is different depending on
>>>>>>>> alu32 mode or not. u8/u16/u32 is not enough to differentiate.
>>>>>>> Ok, so the llvm objdump has a switch that tells when to use rN or wN
>>>>>>> when printing these particular instructions. Thats the "disassembler
>>>>>>> quirk". To what purpose? Isnt the person passing the command line
>>>>>>> switch the same person reading the disassembled program? Is this "alu32
>>>>>>> mode" more than a cosmetic thing?
>>>>>>> But what concern us is the assembler, not the disassembler.
>>>>>>> clang -S (which is not objdump) seems to generate these instructions
>>>>>>> with wN (see https://godbolt.org/z/5G433Yvrb for a store instruction for
>>>>>>> example) and we assume the output of clang -S is intended to be passed
>>>>>>> to an assembler, much like with gcc -S.
>>>>>>> So, should we support both syntaxes as _input_ syntax in the
>>>>>>> assembler?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Considering -mcpu=v3 is recommended cpu flavor (at least in bpf mailing
>>>>>> list), and -mcpu=v3 has alu32 enabled by default. So I think
>>>>>> gcc can start to emit insn assuming alu32 mode is on by default.
>>>>>> So
>>>>>> w1 = *(u8 *)(r2 + 42)
>>>>>> is preferred.
>>>>>
>>>>> We have V4 by default now. So we can emit
>>>>>
>>>>> w1 = *(u8 *)(r2 + 42)
>>>>>
>>>>> when -mcpu is v3 or higher, or if -malu32 is specified, and
>>>>>
>>>>> r1 = *(u8 *)(r2 + 42)
>>>>>
>>>>> when -mcpu is v2 or lower, or if -mnoalu32 is specified.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sounds good?
>>>>>
>>>>> However this implies that the assembler should indeed recognize both
>>>>> forms of instructions. But note that it will assembly them to the
>>>>> exactly same encoded instruction. This includes inline asm (remember
>>>>> GCC does not have an integrated assembler.)
>>>>
>>>> Good point.
>>>> I think we made a mistake in clang.
>>>> We shouldn't be printing
>>>> w1 = *(u8 *)(r2 + 42)
>>>> since such instruction doesn't exist in BPF ISA
>>>> and it's confusing.
>>>> There is only one instruction:
>>>> r1 = *(u8 *)(r2 + 42)
>>>> which is an 8-bit load that zero extends into 64-bit.
>>>> x86 JIT actually implements it as 8-bit load that stores
>>>> into a 32-bit subregister, so it kinda matches w1,
>>>> but that's an implementation detail of the JIT.
>>>>
>>>> I think both gcc and clang should always print r1 = *(u8 *)(r2 + 42)
>>>> regardless of alu32 or not.
>>>> In gas and clang assembler we can support both w1= and r1=
>>>> flavors for backward compat.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I agree with Alexei (the ... disassembler quirk ... comment is left by me :).
>>> Can dig into clang part of things if this is a consensus.
>>
>> For disassembler, we have stx as well may use w* registers with alu32.
>> In llvm BPFDisassembler.cpp, we have
>>
>> if ((InstClass == BPF_LDX || InstClass == BPF_STX) &&
>> getInstSize(Insn) != BPF_DW &&
>> (InstMode == BPF_MEM || InstMode == BPF_ATOMIC) &&
>> STI.hasFeature(BPF::ALU32))
>> Result = decodeInstruction(DecoderTableBPFALU3264, Instr, Insn,
>> Address,
>> this, STI);
>> else
>> Result = decodeInstruction(DecoderTableBPF64, Instr, Insn, Address,
>> this,
>> STI);
>>
>> Maybe we should just do
>>
>> Result = decodeInstruction(DecoderTableBPF64, Instr, Insn, Address,
>> this, STI);
>>
>> So we already disassemble based on non-alu32 mode?
>>
>
> Yonghong, Alexei,
>
> I have a prototype [1] that consolidates STW/STW32, LDW/LDW32 etc
> instructions in LLVM BPF backend, thus removing the syntactic
> difference. I think it simplifies BPFInstrInfo.td a bit but that's up
> to debate.
>
> Should I proceed with it?
>
> [1] https://reviews.llvm.org/D156559
I made a comment to the diff w.r.t. backward compatibility issue.
prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-07-28 23:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-07-25 17:29 Register encoding in assembly for load/store instructions Jose E. Marchesi
2023-07-25 18:47 ` Yonghong Song
2023-07-25 18:56 ` Jose E. Marchesi
2023-07-25 19:11 ` Jose E. Marchesi
2023-07-25 19:59 ` Yonghong Song
2023-07-25 19:45 ` Yonghong Song
2023-07-25 20:09 ` Jose E. Marchesi
2023-07-25 22:10 ` Yonghong Song
2023-07-25 22:26 ` Jose E. Marchesi
2023-07-26 0:31 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2023-07-26 0:39 ` Eduard Zingerman
2023-07-26 4:16 ` Yonghong Song
2023-07-26 14:41 ` Eduard Zingerman
2023-07-28 16:58 ` Eduard Zingerman
2023-07-28 21:29 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2023-07-28 23:25 ` Yonghong Song [this message]
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