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From: Martin KaFai Lau <martin.lau@linux.dev>
To: Zijian Zhang <zijianzhang@bytedance.com>,
	Amery Hung <amery.hung@bytedance.com>
Cc: bpf@vger.kernel.org, edumazet@google.com, davem@davemloft.net,
	kuba@kernel.org, pabeni@redhat.com, dsahern@kernel.org,
	ast@kernel.org, daniel@iogearbox.net, andrii@kernel.org,
	eddyz87@gmail.com, yonghong.song@linux.dev,
	john.fastabend@gmail.com, kpsingh@kernel.org, sdf@fomichev.me,
	haoluo@google.com, jolsa@kernel.org, mykolal@fb.com,
	shuah@kernel.org, xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com,
	wangdongdong.6@bytedance.com, zhoufeng.zf@bytedance.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH bpf-next v2 1/2] bpf: tcp: prevent bpf_reserve_hdr_opt() from growing skb larger than MTU
Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2024 12:38:09 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c56c516a-3e9d-4e42-b5e8-527d6f4cf74b@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <58d770f9-18c7-435b-b14f-215482ee151f@bytedance.com>

On 9/5/24 11:19 AM, Zijian Zhang wrote:
> On 9/3/24 3:38 PM, Martin KaFai Lau wrote:
>> On 8/30/24 2:02 PM, Zijian Zhang wrote:
>>> On 8/28/24 6:00 PM, Martin KaFai Lau wrote:
>>>> On 8/28/24 4:01 PM, Zijian Zhang wrote:
>>>>> On 8/28/24 2:29 PM, Martin KaFai Lau wrote:
>>>>>> On 8/26/24 6:37 PM, zijianzhang@bytedance.com wrote:
>>>>>>> From: Amery Hung <amery.hung@bytedance.com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This series prevents sockops users from accidentally causing packet
>>>>>>> drops. This can happen when a BPF_SOCK_OPS_HDR_OPT_LEN_CB program
>>>>>>> reserves different option lengths in tcp_sendmsg().
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Initially, sockops BPF_SOCK_OPS_HDR_OPT_LEN_CB program will be called to
>>>>>>> reserve a space in tcp_send_mss(), which will return the MSS for TSO.
>>>>>>> Then, BPF_SOCK_OPS_HDR_OPT_LEN_CB will be called in __tcp_transmit_skb()
>>>>>>> again to calculate the actual tcp_option_size and skb_push() the total
>>>>>>> header size.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> skb->gso_size is restored from TCP_SKB_CB(skb)->tcp_gso_size, which is
>>>>>>> derived from tcp_send_mss() where we first call HDR_OPT_LEN. If the
>>>>>>> reserved opt size is smaller than the actual header size, the len of the
>>>>>>> skb can exceed the MTU. As a result, ip(6)_fragment will drop the
>>>>>>> packet if skb->ignore_df is not set.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To prevent this accidental packet drop, we need to make sure the
>>>>>>> second call to the BPF_SOCK_OPS_HDR_OPT_LEN_CB program reserves space
>>>>>>> not more than the first time. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> iiuc, it is a bug in the bpf prog itself that did not reserve the same 
>>>>>> header length and caused a drop. It is not the only drop case though for 
>>>>>> an incorrect bpf prog. There are other cases where a bpf prog can 
>>>>>> accidentally drop a packet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you have an actual use case that the bpf prog cannot reserve the 
>>>>>> correct header length for the same sk ?
>>>>>
>>>>> That's right, it's the bug of the bpf prog itself. We are trying to have
>>>>> the error reported earlier in eBPF program, instead of successfully
>>>>> returning from bpf_sock_ops_reserve_hdr_opt but leading to packet drop
>>>>> at the end because of it.
>>>>>
>>>>> By adding this patch, the `remaining` variable passed to the
>>>>> bpf_skops_hdr_opt_len will be more precise, it takes the previously
>>>>> reserved size into account. As a result, if users accidentally set an
>>>>> option size larger than the reserved size, bpf_sock_ops_reserve_hdr_opt
>>>>> will return -ENOSPC instead of 0.
>>>>
>>>> Putting aside it adds more checks, this adds something pretty unique to the 
>>>> bpf header option comparing with other dynamic options like sack. e.g. For 
>>>> tp- >mss_cache, I assume it won't change since the earlier tcp_current_mss() 
>>>> was called?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Agreed, this check is very unique comparing with other dynamic options.
>>> How about moving the check into function bpf_skops_hdr_opt_len? It
>>> already has some logic to check if the context is in tcp_current_mss.
>>> Does it look more reasonable?
>>
>> Yes, it probably may be better to put that into the bpf_skops_hdr_opt_len(). 
>> This is implementation details which is something for later after figuring out 
>> if the reserved_opt_spc change is correct and needed.
>>
>>>
>>> `reserved_opt_spc = tp->mss_cache - tcp_skb_seglen(skb)`
>>> For tp->mss_cache here, yes, I also think it won't change,
>>
>> This needs more details and clear explanation on why it is the case and why 
>> the existing regular bpf prog will continue to work.
>>
>> afaik, mss_cache and tcp_skb_seglen() must be in-sync and the same between 
>> calls for this to work . From thinking about it, it should be but I haven't 
>> looked at all cases. Missing "- size" does not help the confidence here also.
>>
>> Also, when "skb != NULL", I don't understand why the "MAX_TCP_OPTION_SPACE - 
>> size" is still being considered. I am likely missing something here. If the 
>> above formula is correct, why reserved_opt_spc is not always used for the 
>> "skb != NULL" case and still need to be compared with the 
>> "MAX_TCP_OPTION_SPACE - size"?
>>
> 
> Cases I can think of are as follows,
> - When it's not a GSO skb, tcp_skb_seglen will simply return skb->len,
> it might make `tp->mss_cache - tcp_skb_seglen(skb)` a large number.
> 
> - When we are in tcp_mtu_probe, tp->mss_cache will be smaller than
> tcp_skb_seglen(skb), which makes the equation again a large number.

In tcp_mtu_probe, mss_cache is (smaller) than the tcp_skb_seglen(skb)?

> 
> 
> "MAX_TCP_OPTION_SPACE - size" is considered here as the strict upper
> bound, while reserved_opt_spc is expected to be a stricter upper bound.
> In the above or other cases, where the equation malfunctioned, we can
> always fall back to the original bound.

Make sense. Thanks for the explanation. The commit message could have used this 
details.

> 
> 
> I am not sure which way to get the reserved size is better,
> 1. We could precisely cache the result of the reserved size, may
> need to have a new field for it, I agree that a field in tcp_sock
> is overkill.
> 
> 2. In this patch, we use an equation to infer the value of it. There are
> some concerns with tp->mss_cache and tcp_skb_seglen(skb) here, I agree.
> If tp->mss_cache and tcp_skb_seglen(skb) might not be in-sync, we may
> have an underestimated reserved_opt_spc, it may break existing bpf
> progs. If this method is preferred I will do more investigations to
> verify it or modify the equation :)

imo, the bpf prog can always use bpf_sk_storage to add fields to a sock and 
store the previous reserved space there. I think this is the solution you should 
use in your use case which randomly reserves header space. Adding a field in the 
tcp_sock feels wrong especially the only use case I am hearing so far is a bpf 
prog randomly reserving header spaces.

If (2) can be convinced to be correct, improving bpf_reserve_hdr_opt() is fine 
as long as it does not break the existing program. I expect some tests to cover 
this.


  reply	other threads:[~2024-09-05 19:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-27  1:37 [PATCH bpf-next v2 0/2] prevent bpf_reserve_hdr_opt() from growing skb larger than MTU zijianzhang
2024-08-27  1:37 ` [PATCH bpf-next v2 1/2] bpf: tcp: " zijianzhang
2024-08-28 21:29   ` Martin KaFai Lau
2024-08-28 23:01     ` Zijian Zhang
2024-08-29  1:00       ` Martin KaFai Lau
2024-08-30 21:02         ` Zijian Zhang
2024-09-03 22:38           ` Martin KaFai Lau
2024-09-05 18:19             ` Zijian Zhang
2024-09-05 19:38               ` Martin KaFai Lau [this message]
2024-09-05 20:20                 ` Zijian Zhang
2024-09-05 21:07                   ` Martin KaFai Lau
2024-08-29 16:46     ` Cong Wang
2024-08-30  0:20       ` Martin KaFai Lau
2024-08-27  1:37 ` [PATCH bpf-next v2 2/2] bpf: selftests: reserve smaller tcp header options than the actual size zijianzhang

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