From: Yonghong Song <yonghong.song@linux.dev>
To: Alan Maguire <alan.maguire@oracle.com>,
Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <arnaldo.melo@gmail.com>,
dwarves@vger.kernel.org
Cc: Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>,
bpf@vger.kernel.org, kernel-team@fb.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH dwarves v2 0/9] pahole: Encode true signatures in kernel BTF
Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2026 12:25:29 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <caa6ac68-9702-43fb-87cc-7393fb44c176@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <976a9e56-a221-4f63-8f10-caf2a3c8fa4f@oracle.com>
On 3/9/26 11:39 AM, Alan Maguire wrote:
> On 09/03/2026 15:32, Yonghong Song wrote:
>> Current vmlinux BTF encoding is based on the source level signatures.
>> But the compiler may do some optimization and changed the signature.
>> If the user tried with source level signature, their initial implementation
>> may have wrong results and then the user need to check what is the
>> problem and work around it, e.g. through kprobe since kprobe does not
>> need vmlinux BTF.
>>
>> Majority of changed signatures are due to dead argument elimination.
>> The following is a more complex one. The original source signature:
>> typedef struct {
>> union {
>> void *kernel;
>> void __user *user;
>> };
>> bool is_kernel : 1;
>> } sockptr_t;
>> typedef sockptr_t bpfptr_t;
>> static int map_create(union bpf_attr *attr, bpfptr_t uattr) { ... }
>> After compiler optimization, the signature becomes:
>> static int map_create(union bpf_attr *attr, bool uattr__is_kernel) { ... }
>> In the above, uattr__is_kernel corresponds to 'is_kernel' field in sockptr_t.
>> This makes it easier for developers to understand what changed.
>>
>> The new signature needs to properly follow ABI specification based on
>> locations. Otherwise, that signature should be discarded. For example,
>>
>> 0x0242f1f7: DW_TAG_subprogram
>> DW_AT_name ("memblock_find_in_range")
>> DW_AT_calling_convention (DW_CC_nocall)
>> DW_AT_type (0x0242decc "phys_addr_t")
>> ...
>> 0x0242f22e: DW_TAG_formal_parameter
>> DW_AT_location (indexed (0x14a) loclist = 0x005595bc:
>> [0xffffffff87a000f9, 0xffffffff87a00178): DW_OP_reg5 RDI
>> [0xffffffff87a00178, 0xffffffff87a001be): DW_OP_reg14 R14
>> [0xffffffff87a001be, 0xffffffff87a001c7): DW_OP_entry_value(DW_OP_reg5 RDI), DW_OP_stack_value
>> [0xffffffff87a001c7, 0xffffffff87a00214): DW_OP_reg14 R14)
>> DW_AT_name ("start")
>> DW_AT_type (0x0242decc "phys_addr_t")
>> ...
>> 0x0242f239: DW_TAG_formal_parameter
>> DW_AT_location (indexed (0x14b) loclist = 0x005595e6:
>> [0xffffffff87a000f9, 0xffffffff87a00175): DW_OP_reg4 RSI
>> [0xffffffff87a00175, 0xffffffff87a001b8): DW_OP_reg3 RBX
>> [0xffffffff87a001b8, 0xffffffff87a001c7): DW_OP_entry_value(DW_OP_reg4 RSI), DW_OP_stack_value
>> [0xffffffff87a001c7, 0xffffffff87a00214): DW_OP_reg3 RBX)
>> DW_AT_name ("end")
>> DW_AT_type (0x0242decc "phys_addr_t")
>> ...
>> 0x0242f245: DW_TAG_formal_parameter
>> DW_AT_location (indexed (0x14c) loclist = 0x00559610:
>> [0xffffffff87a001e3, 0xffffffff87a001ef): DW_OP_breg4 RSI+0)
>> DW_AT_name ("size")
>> DW_AT_type (0x0242decc "phys_addr_t")
>> ...
>> 0x0242f250: DW_TAG_formal_parameter
>> DW_AT_const_value (4096)
>> DW_AT_name ("align")
>> DW_AT_type (0x0242decc "phys_addr_t")
>> ...
>>
>> The third argument should correspond to RDX for x86_64. But the location suggests that
>> the parameter value is stored in the address with 'RSI + 0'. It is not clear whether
>> the parameter value is stored in RDX or not. So we have to discard this funciton in
>> vmlinux BTF to avoid incorrect true signatures.
>>
>> For llvm, any function having
>> DW_AT_calling_convention (DW_CC_nocall)
>> in dwarf DW_TAG_subprogram will indicate that this function has signature changed.
>> I did experiment with latest bpf-next. For x86_64, there are 69103 kernel functions
>> and 875 kernel functions having signature changed. A series of patches are intended
>> to ensure true signatures are properly represented. Eventually, only 17 functions
>> cannot have true signatures due to locations.
>>
> hi Yonghong, one high-level question before I start digging into this further.
> Are there any minimum requirements on LLVM/clang version for this support? Thanks!
This featureDW_AT_calling_convention is introduced into llvm on June 2022: https://reviews.llvm.org/D127134
The release is llvm15. From Documentation/process/changes.rst, we have
Clang/LLVM (optional) 15.0.0 clang --version
So we should be okay.
But if the kernel is built with -O3 or FullLTO, there will be some
additional signature changed functions and they will be checked
only available at >= llvm23 (see https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project/pull/178973).
But the number of those additional signature changed functions should not be that many.
Also typical kernel build is -O2 so we are not missing signature changed
functions in most cases.
>
> Alan
>
>> For arm64, there are 863 kernel functions having signature changed, and
>> 79 functions cannot have true signatures due to locations. I checked those
>> functions and look like llvm arm64 backend more relaxed to compute parameter
>> values.
>>
>> For the patch set, Patch 1 introduced usage of DW_AT_calling_convention, which
>> can precisely identify which function has signature changed. This can filter
>> majority of functions where their signature won't change.
>> Patches 2 to 7 tried to find functions with true signature.
>> Patch 8 enables to btf encoder to properly generate BTF.
>> Patch 9 includes a few tests.
>>
>> Changelog:
>> v1 -> v2:
>> - v1: https://lore.kernel.org/bpf/20260305225455.1151066-1-yonghong.song@linux.dev/
>> - Added producer_clang guarding in btf_encoder. Otherwise, gcc kernel build
>> will crash pahole.
>> - Fix an early return in parameter__reg() which didn't do pthread_mutex_unlock()
>> which caused the deadlock for arm64.
>> - Add a few more places to guard with producer_clang and conf->true_signature
>> to maintain the previous behavior if not clang or conf->true_signature is false.
>>
>> Yonghong Song (9):
>> dwarf_loader: Reduce parameter checking with clang
>> DW_AT_calling_convention attr
>> dwarf_loader: Handle signatures with dead arguments
>> dwarf_loader: Refactor initial ret -1 to be macro PARM_DEFAULT_FAIL
>> dwarf_laoder: Handle locations with DW_OP_fbreg
>> dwarf_loader: Change exprlen checking condition in parameter__reg()
>> dwarf_loader: Detect optimized parameters with locations having
>> constant values
>> dwarf_loader: Handle expression lists
>> btf_encoder: Handle optimized parameter properly
>> tests: Add a few clang true signature tests
>>
>> btf_encoder.c | 13 +-
>> dwarf_loader.c | 397 +++++++++++++++++-
>> dwarves.h | 3 +
>> tests/true_signatures/clang_parm_aggregate.sh | 83 ++++
>> tests/true_signatures/clang_parm_optimized.sh | 95 +++++
>> .../clang_parm_optimized_stack.sh | 95 +++++
>> .../gcc_true_signatures.sh | 0
>> 7 files changed, 662 insertions(+), 24 deletions(-)
>> create mode 100755 tests/true_signatures/clang_parm_aggregate.sh
>> create mode 100755 tests/true_signatures/clang_parm_optimized.sh
>> create mode 100755 tests/true_signatures/clang_parm_optimized_stack.sh
>> rename tests/{ => true_signatures}/gcc_true_signatures.sh (100%)
>>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-03-09 19:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-03-09 15:32 [PATCH dwarves v2 0/9] pahole: Encode true signatures in kernel BTF Yonghong Song
2026-03-09 15:32 ` [PATCH dwarves v2 1/9] dwarf_loader: Reduce parameter checking with clang DW_AT_calling_convention attr Yonghong Song
2026-03-09 15:32 ` [PATCH dwarves v2 2/9] dwarf_loader: Handle signatures with dead arguments Yonghong Song
2026-03-09 15:32 ` [PATCH dwarves v2 3/9] dwarf_loader: Refactor initial ret -1 to be macro PARM_DEFAULT_FAIL Yonghong Song
2026-03-09 15:32 ` [PATCH dwarves v2 4/9] dwarf_laoder: Handle locations with DW_OP_fbreg Yonghong Song
2026-03-09 15:32 ` [PATCH dwarves v2 5/9] dwarf_loader: Change exprlen checking condition in parameter__reg() Yonghong Song
2026-03-09 15:32 ` [PATCH dwarves v2 6/9] dwarf_loader: Detect optimized parameters with locations having constant values Yonghong Song
2026-03-09 15:32 ` [PATCH dwarves v2 7/9] dwarf_loader: Handle expression lists Yonghong Song
2026-03-09 15:32 ` [PATCH dwarves v2 8/9] btf_encoder: Handle optimized parameter properly Yonghong Song
2026-03-09 15:33 ` [PATCH dwarves v2 9/9] tests: Add a few clang true signature tests Yonghong Song
2026-03-09 18:39 ` [PATCH dwarves v2 0/9] pahole: Encode true signatures in kernel BTF Alan Maguire
2026-03-09 19:25 ` Yonghong Song [this message]
2026-03-19 16:23 ` Yonghong Song
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