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From: Yonghong Song <yhs@meta.com>
To: Menglong Dong <menglong8.dong@gmail.com>,
	Andrii Nakryiko <andrii.nakryiko@gmail.com>,
	Alan Maguire <alan.maguire@oracle.com>
Cc: bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: bpf: add support to check kernel features in BPF program
Date: Thu, 4 May 2023 09:53:29 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d79d6281-845f-c395-79eb-5963389971d3@meta.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADxym3ax73kYEyJMZwN+bTwmX9VhZ3WJe+wC9RGGwpfdjLdf3g@mail.gmail.com>



On 5/4/23 4:09 AM, Menglong Dong wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I find that it's not supported yet to check if the bpf features are
> supported by the target kernel in the BPF program, which makes
> it hard to keep the BPF program compatible with different kernel
> versions.
> 
> For example, I want to use the helper bpf_jiffies64(), but I am not
> sure if it is supported by the target, as my program can run in
> kernel 5.4 or kernel 5.10. Therefore, I have to compile two versions
> BPF elf and load one of them according to the current kernel version.
> The part of BPF program can be this:
> 
> #ifdef BPF_FEATS_JIFFIES64
>    jiffies = bpf_jiffies64();
> #else
>    jiffies = 0;
> #endif
> 
> And I will generate xxx_no_jiffies.skel.h and xxx_jiffies.skel.h
> with -DBPF_FEATS_JIFFIES64 or not.
> 
> This method is too silly, as I have to compile 8(2*2*2) versions of
> the BPF program if I am not sure if 3 bpf helpers are supported by the
> target kernel.
> 
> Therefore, I think it may be helpful if we can check if the helpers
> are support like this:
> 
> if (bpf_core_helper_exist(bpf_jiffies64))
>    jiffies = bpf_jiffies64();
> else
>    jiffies = 0;
> 
> And bpf_core_helper_exist() can be defined like this:
> 
> #define bpf_core_helper_exist(helper)                        \
>      __builtin_preserve_helper_info(helper, BPF_HELPER_EXISTS)
> 
> Besides, in order to prevent the verifier from checking the helper
> that is not supported, we need to remove the dead code in libbpf.
> As the kernel already has the ability to remove dead and nop insn,
> we can just make the dead insn to nop.
> 
> Another option is to make the BPF program support "const value".
> Such const values can be rewrite before load, the dead code can
> be removed. For example:
> 
> #define bpf_const_value __attribute__((preserve_const_value))
> 
> bpf_const_value bool is_bpf_jiffies64_supported = 0;
> 
> if (is_bpf_jiffies64_supported)
>    jiffies = bpf_jiffies64();
> else
>    jiffies = 0;
> 
> The 'is_bpf_jiffies64_supported' will be compiled to an imm, and
> can be rewrite and relocated through libbpf by the user. Then, we
> can make the dead insn 'nop'.

A variant of the second approach should already work.
You can do,

volatile const is_bpf_jiffies64_supported;

...

if (is_bpf_jiffies64_supported)
     jiffies = bpf_jiffies64();
else
     jiffies = 0;


After skeleton is openned but before prog load, you can do
a probe into the kernel to find whether the helper is supported
or not, and set is_bpf_jiffies64_supported accordingly.

After loading the program, is_bpf_jiffies64_supported will be
changed to 0/1, verifier will do dead code elimination properly.

> 
> What do you think? I'm not sure if these methods work and want
> to get some advice before coding.
> 
> Thanks!
> Menglong Dong

  reply	other threads:[~2023-05-04 16:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-05-04 11:09 bpf: add support to check kernel features in BPF program Menglong Dong
2023-05-04 16:53 ` Yonghong Song [this message]
2023-05-05  2:42   ` Menglong Dong
2023-05-05  4:12     ` Andrii Nakryiko
2023-05-05  6:54       ` Menglong Dong
2023-05-05 16:58         ` Andrii Nakryiko
2023-05-06  2:45           ` Menglong Dong
2023-05-05  7:51 ` zf

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