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From: Mykyta Yatsenko <mykyta.yatsenko5@gmail.com>
To: Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi <memxor@gmail.com>
Cc: bpf@vger.kernel.org, ast@kernel.org, andrii@kernel.org,
	daniel@iogearbox.net, kafai@meta.com, kernel-team@meta.com,
	eddyz87@gmail.com, Mykyta Yatsenko <yatsenko@meta.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC v3 04/10] bpf: Add lock-free cell for NMI-safe async operations
Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2026 19:05:37 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <e4eee776-e9c7-4186-b239-733f81a9ae4a@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAP01T77h5caT6EprhREYMNmjTkbBZ9-OT7HkxdnJUNNME2evQQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 1/7/26 18:30, Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi wrote:
> On Wed, 7 Jan 2026 at 18:49, Mykyta Yatsenko <mykyta.yatsenko5@gmail.com> wrote:
>> From: Mykyta Yatsenko <yatsenko@meta.com>
>>
>> Introduce mpmc_cell, a lock-free cell primitive designed to support
>> concurrent writes to struct in NMI context (only one writer advances),
>> allowing readers to consume consistent snapshot.
>>
>> Implementation details:
>>   Double buffering allows writers run concurrently with readers (read
>>   from one cell, write to another)
>>
>>   The implementation uses a sequence-number-based protocol to enable
>>   exclusive writes.
>>    * Bit 0 of seq indicates an active writer
>>    * Bits 1+ form a generation counter
>>    * (seq & 2) >> 1 selects the read cell, write cell is opposite
>>    * Writers atomically set bit 0, write to the inactive cell, then
>>      increment seq to publish
>>    * Readers snapshot seq, read from the active cell, then validate
>>      that seq hasn't changed
>>
>> mpmc_cell expects users to pre-allocate double buffers.
>>
>> Key properties:
>>   * Writers never block (fail if lost the race to another writer)
>>   * Readers never block writers (double buffering), but may require
>>   retries if write updates the snapshot concurrently.
>>
>> This will be used by BPF timer and workqueue helpers to defer NMI-unsafe
>> operations (like hrtimer_start()) to irq_work effectively allowing BPF
>> programs to initiate timers and workqueues from NMI context.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Mykyta Yatsenko <yatsenko@meta.com>
>> ---
> We already have a dual-versioned concurrency control primitive in the
> kernel (seqcount_latch_t). I would just use that instead of
> reinventing it here. I don't see much of a difference except writer
> serialization, which can be done on top of it. If it was already
> considered and discarded for some reason, please add that reason to
> the commit message.
yes, multiple concurrent  writers support would is the main difference
between seqcount_latch_t and my implementation. I'll switch to
seqcount_latch_t and external synchronization for writers.
>>   [...]
>>


  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-07 19:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-07 17:49 [PATCH RFC v3 00/10] bpf: Avoid locks in bpf_timer and bpf_wq Mykyta Yatsenko
2026-01-07 17:49 ` [PATCH RFC v3 01/10] bpf: Refactor __bpf_async_set_callback() Mykyta Yatsenko
2026-01-07 18:22   ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-01-09 22:18     ` Andrii Nakryiko
2026-01-13 13:58       ` Mykyta Yatsenko
2026-01-13 16:14       ` Mykyta Yatsenko
2026-01-09 22:18   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2026-01-12  6:47   ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2026-01-12  8:12     ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2026-01-07 17:49 ` [PATCH RFC v3 02/10] bpf: Factor out timer deletion helper Mykyta Yatsenko
2026-01-12  6:51   ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2026-01-07 17:49 ` [PATCH RFC v3 03/10] bpf: Simplify bpf_timer_cancel() Mykyta Yatsenko
2026-01-07 18:22   ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-01-09 22:19     ` Andrii Nakryiko
2026-01-12  7:29       ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2026-01-07 17:49 ` [PATCH RFC v3 04/10] bpf: Add lock-free cell for NMI-safe async operations Mykyta Yatsenko
2026-01-07 18:08   ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-01-07 18:30   ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2026-01-07 19:05     ` Mykyta Yatsenko [this message]
2026-01-09  1:18       ` Andrii Nakryiko
2026-01-09 18:22         ` Mykyta Yatsenko
2026-01-09 18:47           ` Andrii Nakryiko
2026-01-09 23:51             ` Alexei Starovoitov
2026-01-10  0:03               ` Andrii Nakryiko
2026-01-09 22:19   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2026-01-07 17:49 ` [PATCH RFC v3 05/10] bpf: Enable bpf timer and workqueue use in NMI Mykyta Yatsenko
2026-01-07 18:22   ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-01-09 22:19   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2026-01-14 14:53     ` Mykyta Yatsenko
2026-01-15 18:39       ` Andrii Nakryiko
2026-01-15 18:52         ` Mykyta Yatsenko
2026-01-12  8:10   ` Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi
2026-01-07 17:49 ` [PATCH RFC v3 06/10] bpf: Add verifier support for bpf_timer argument in kfuncs Mykyta Yatsenko
2026-01-09 22:19   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2026-01-07 17:49 ` [PATCH RFC v3 07/10] bpf: Introduce bpf_timer_cancel_async() kfunc Mykyta Yatsenko
2026-01-09 22:19   ` Andrii Nakryiko
2026-01-07 17:49 ` [PATCH RFC v3 08/10] selftests/bpf: Refactor timer selftests Mykyta Yatsenko
2026-01-07 17:49 ` [PATCH RFC v3 09/10] selftests/bpf: Add stress test for timer async cancel Mykyta Yatsenko
2026-01-07 17:49 ` [PATCH RFC v3 10/10] selftests/bpf: Verify bpf_timer_cancel_async works Mykyta Yatsenko
2026-01-09 22:19   ` Andrii Nakryiko

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