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From: Tao Chen <chen.dylane@linux.dev>
To: Alan Maguire <alan.maguire@oracle.com>,
	Andrii Nakryiko <andrii.nakryiko@gmail.com>
Cc: Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
	Andrii Nakryiko <andrii@kernel.org>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	Jiri Olsa <jolsa@kernel.org>, Song Liu <song@kernel.org>,
	Yonghong Song <yonghong.song@linux.dev>,
	bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Question: fentry on kernel func optimized by compiler
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2025 20:10:09 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ee8a41c8-9500-4ff9-bffb-e6c764da6e3e@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3c6f539b-b498-4587-b0dc-5fdeba717600@oracle.com>

在 2025/3/31 18:13, Alan Maguire 写道:
> On 28/03/2025 17:21, Andrii Nakryiko wrote:
>> On Thu, Mar 27, 2025 at 9:03 AM Tao Chen <chen.dylane@linux.dev> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I recently encountered a problem when using fentry to trace kernel
>>> functions optimized by compiler, the specific situation is as follows:
>>> https://github.com/bpftrace/bpftrace/issues/3940
>>>
>>> Simply put, some functions have been optimized by the compiler. The
>>> original function names are found through BTF, but the optimized
>>> functions are the ones that exist in kallsyms_lookup_name. Therefore,
>>> the two do not match.
>>>
>>>           func_proto = btf_type_by_id(desc_btf, func->type);
>>>           if (!func_proto || !btf_type_is_func_proto(func_proto)) {
>>>                   verbose(env, "kernel function btf_id %u does not have a
>>> valid func_proto\n",
>>>                           func_id);
>>>                   return -EINVAL;
>>>           }
>>>
>>>           func_name = btf_name_by_offset(desc_btf, func->name_off);
>>>           addr = kallsyms_lookup_name(func_name);
>>>           if (!addr) {
>>>                   verbose(env, "cannot find address for kernel function
>>> %s\n",
>>>                           func_name);
>>>                   return -EINVAL;
>>>           }
>>>
>>> I have made a simple statistics and there are approximately more than
>>> 2,000 functions in Ubuntu 24.04.
>>>
>>> dylane@2404:~$ cat /proc/kallsyms | grep isra | wc -l
>>> 2324
>>>
>>> So can we add a judgment from libbpf. If it is an optimized function,
>>
>> No, we cannot. It's a different function at that point and libbpf
>> isn't going to be in the business of guessing on behalf of the user
>> whether it's ok to do or not.
>>
>> But the user can use multi-kprobe with `prefix*` naming, if they
>> encountered (or are anticipating) this situation and think it's fine
>> for them.
>>
>> As for fentry/fexit, you need to have the correct BTF ID associated
>> with that function anyways, so I'm not sure that currently you can
>> attach fentry/fexit to such compiler-optimized functions at all
>> (pahole won't produce BTF for such functions, right?).
>>
> 
> Yep, BTF will not be there for all cases, but ever since we've had the
> "optimized_func" BTF feature, we've have encoded BTF for suffixed
> functions as long as their parameters are not optimized away and as long
> as we don't have multiple inconsistent representations associated with a
> function (say two differing function signatures for the same name).
> Optimization away of parameters happens quite frequently, but not always
> for .isra.0 functions so they are potentially sometimes safe for fentry.
> 
> The complication here is that - by design - the function name in BTF
> will be the prefix; i.e. "foo" not "foo.isra.0". So how we match up the
> BTF with the right suffixed function is an issue; a single function
> prefix can have ".isra.0" and ".cold.0" suffixes associated for example.
> The latter isn't really a function entry point (in the C code at least);
> it's just a split of the function into common path and less common path
> for better code locality for the more commonly-executed code.
> 
> Yonghong and I talked about this a bit last year in Plumbers, but it did
> occur to me that there are conditions where we could match up the prefix
> from BTF with a guaranteed fentry point for the function using info we
> have today.
> 
> /sys/kernel/tracing/available_filter_functions_addr has similar info to
> /proc/kallysyms but as far as I understand it we are also guaranteed
> that the associated addresses correspond to real function entry points.
> So because the BTF representation currently ensures consistency _and_
> available function parameters, I think we could use
> available_filter_functions_addr to carry out the match and provide the
> right function address for the BTF representation.
> 

Hi, Alan
Sorry for not replying in time. As you said,it seems much simpler when 
use the func addr from available_filter_functions_addr. It seems to be a 
bit similar to the way of passing function addresses in kprobe_multi. 
@Andrii @Jiri what do you think?

> In the future, the hope is we can handle inconsistent representations
> too in BTF, but the above represents a possible approach we could
> implement today I think, though I may be missing something. Thanks!
> 
> Alan


-- 
Best Regards
Tao Chen

  reply	other threads:[~2025-04-15 12:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-27 16:03 Question: fentry on kernel func optimized by compiler Tao Chen
2025-03-27 17:19 ` Song Liu
2025-03-28 15:19   ` Tao Chen
2025-03-28 17:21 ` Andrii Nakryiko
2025-03-31  9:54   ` Tao Chen
2025-03-31 10:13   ` Alan Maguire
2025-04-15 12:10     ` Tao Chen [this message]
2025-04-15 19:21       ` Jiri Olsa
2025-04-17 12:55         ` Tao Chen

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