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From: Anirudh Venkataramanan <anirudh.venkataramanan@intel.com>
To: Alexander Duyck <alexander.duyck@gmail.com>
Cc: "Fabio M. De Francesco" <fmdefrancesco@gmail.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Maciej Fijalkowski <maciej.fijalkowski@intel.com>,
	Jesper Dangaard Brouer <hawk@kernel.org>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	intel-wired-lan <intel-wired-lan@lists.osuosl.org>,
	Alexander Duyck <alexanderduyck@fb.com>,
	John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
	Jesse Brandeburg <jesse.brandeburg@intel.com>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>, bpf <bpf@vger.kernel.org>,
	Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>, Ira Weiny <ira.weiny@intel.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Tony Nguyen <anthony.l.nguyen@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [Intel-wired-lan] [PATCH] ixgbe: Use kmap_local_page in ixgbe_check_lbtest_frame()
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2022 11:50:36 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f32338c8-db1a-ba0c-9254-922d96f2e601@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKgT0UfU6Hu3XtuJS_vvmeOMDdFcVanieGXRLyVRmPF7+eRjvg@mail.gmail.com>

On 9/23/2022 8:31 AM, Alexander Duyck wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 22, 2022 at 3:38 PM Anirudh Venkataramanan
> <anirudh.venkataramanan@intel.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 9/22/2022 1:58 PM, Alexander Duyck wrote:
>>> On Thu, Sep 22, 2022 at 1:07 PM Anirudh Venkataramanan
>>> <anirudh.venkataramanan@intel.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Following Fabio's patches, I made similar changes for e1000/e1000e and
>>>> submitted them to IWL [1].
>>>>
>>>> Yesterday, Ira Weiny pointed me to some feedback from Dave Hansen on the
>>>> use of page_address() [2]. My understanding of this feedback is that
>>>> it's safer to use kmap_local_page() instead of page_address(), because
>>>> you don't always know how the underlying page was allocated.
>>>>
>>>> This approach (of using kmap_local_page() instead of page_address())
>>>> makes sense to me. Any reason not to go this way?
>>>>
>>>> [1]
>>>>
>>>> https://patchwork.ozlabs.org/project/intel-wired-lan/patch/20220919180949.388785-1-anirudh.venkataramanan@intel.com/
>>>>
>>>> https://patchwork.ozlabs.org/project/intel-wired-lan/patch/20220919180949.388785-2-anirudh.venkataramanan@intel.com/
>>>>
>>>> [2]
>>>> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/5d667258-b58b-3d28-3609-e7914c99b31b@intel.com/
>>>>
>>>> Ani
>>>
>>> For the two patches you referenced the driver is the one allocating
>>> the pages. So in such a case the page_address should be acceptable.
>>> Specifically we are falling into alloc_page(GFP_ATOMIC) which should
>>> fall into the first case that Dave Hansen called out.
>>
>> Right. However, I did run into a case in the chelsio inline crypto
>> driver where it seems like the pages are allocated outside the driver.
>> In such cases, kmap_local_page() would be the right approach, as the
>> driver can't make assumptions on how the page was allocated.
> 
> Right, but that is comparing apples and oranges. As I said for Tx it
> would make sense, but since we are doing the allocations for Rx that
> isn't the case so we don't need it.
> 
>> ... and this makes me wonder why not just use kmap_local_page() even in
>> cases where the page allocation was done in the driver. IMO, this is
>> simpler because
>>
>> a) you don't have to care how a page was allocated. kmap_local_page()
>> will create a temporary mapping if required, if not it just becomes a
>> wrapper to page_address().
>>
>> b) should a future patch change the allocation to be from highmem, you
>> don't have to change a bunch of page_address() calls to be
>> kmap_local_page().
>>
>> Is using page_address() directly beneficial in some way?
> 
> By that argument why don't we just leave the code alone and keep using
> kmap? I am pretty certain that is the logic that had us using kmap in
> the first place since it also dumps us with page_address in most cases
> and we didn't care much about the other architectures.

Well, my understanding is that kmap_local_page() doesn't have the 
overheads kmap() has, and that alone is reason enough to replace kmap() 
and kmap_atomic() with kmap_local_page() where possible.

> If you look at
> the kmap_local_page() it just adds an extra step or two to calling
> page_address(). In this case it is adding extra complication to
> something that isn't needed which is the reason why we are going
> through this in the first place. If we are going to pull the bandage I
> suggest we might as well just go all the way and not take a half-step
> since we don't actually need kmap or its related calls for this.

I don't really see this as "pulling the kmap() bandage", but a "use a 
more appropriate kmap function if you can" type situation.

FWIW, I am not against using page_address(). Just wanted to hash this 
out and get to a conclusion before I made new changes.

Ani

  reply	other threads:[~2022-09-23 18:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-29  8:58 [PATCH] ixgbe: Use kmap_local_page in ixgbe_check_lbtest_frame() Fabio M. De Francesco
2022-06-30 10:10 ` Maciej Fijalkowski
2022-06-30 15:17   ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Alexander Duyck
2022-06-30 15:21     ` Maciej Fijalkowski
2022-06-30 15:25     ` Eric Dumazet
2022-06-30 16:09       ` Alexander Duyck
2022-06-30 18:18         ` Fabio M. De Francesco
2022-06-30 21:59           ` Alexander Duyck
2022-07-01 15:36             ` Fabio M. De Francesco
2022-09-22 20:07               ` Anirudh Venkataramanan
2022-09-22 20:58                 ` Alexander Duyck
2022-09-22 22:38                   ` Anirudh Venkataramanan
2022-09-23 15:05                     ` Fabio M. De Francesco
2022-09-23 17:59                       ` Anirudh Venkataramanan
2022-09-30 22:03                       ` Fabio M. De Francesco
2022-09-23 15:31                     ` Alexander Duyck
2022-09-23 18:50                       ` Anirudh Venkataramanan [this message]
2022-09-23 21:31                         ` Alexander Duyck
2022-06-30 18:13     ` Fabio M. De Francesco
2022-08-04 12:53 ` G, GurucharanX

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