From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=kernel.org; s=default; t=1606136621; bh=J/TET3MqSRKQBkZDLmw3offBuTNq8xblR6VPj5c7KTQ=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=huMDpxd34lY8zl81VJt6WrkzA8VbZ3WZKfCc+01YUsnQkEm+dvBfrNL343ZTscxgS 4cn7RRAIuR/6lyK6TO0qxACy3TNrSBuTodAx+s4Q2YpvApK9inZpqsbsSdtJmbV9Zx YwwBYqtSxUH9kHvWkiEz2t98c4vnYVnAJ6qqQTEg= Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2020 07:03:48 -0600 From: "Gustavo A. R. Silva" Message-ID: <20201123130348.GA3119@embeddedor> References: <20201120105344.4345c14e@kicinski-fedora-pc1c0hjn.dhcp.thefacebook.com> <202011201129.B13FDB3C@keescook> <20201120115142.292999b2@kicinski-fedora-pc1c0hjn.dhcp.thefacebook.com> <202011220816.8B6591A@keescook> <9b57fd4914b46f38d54087d75e072d6e947cb56d.camel@HansenPartnership.com> <0147972a72bc13f3629de8a32dee6f1f308994b5.camel@HansenPartnership.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [Bridge] [Intel-wired-lan] [PATCH 000/141] Fix fall-through warnings for Clang List-Id: Linux Ethernet Bridging List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , To: James Bottomley Cc: alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, bridge@lists.linux-foundation.org, target-devel@vger.kernel.org, Greg KH , linux-iio@vger.kernel.org, linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org, Jonathan Cameron , linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org, linux-ide@vger.kernel.org, dm-devel@redhat.com, keyrings@vger.kernel.org, linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org, GR-everest-linux-l2@marvell.com, wcn36xx@lists.infradead.org, linux-i3c@lists.infradead.org, linux1394-devel@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-afs@lists.infradead.org, drbd-dev@lists.linbit.com, devel@driverdev.osuosl.org, linux-cifs@vger.kernel.org, rds-devel@oss.oracle.com, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org, linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org, oss-drivers@netronome.com, linux-atm-general@lists.sourceforge.net, ceph-devel@vger.kernel.org, amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-stm32@st-md-mailman.stormreply.com, cluster-devel@redhat.com, usb-storage@lists.one-eyed-alien.net, linux-mmc@vger.kernel.org, coreteam@netfilter.org, intel-wired-lan@lists.osuosl.org, linux-input@vger.kernel.org, Miguel Ojeda , Jakub Kicinski , linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org, linux-media@vger.kernel.org, Kees Cook , selinux@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org, intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-sctp@vger.kernel.org, reiserfs-devel@vger.kernel.org, linux-geode@lists.infradead.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-gpio@vger.kernel.org, op-tee@lists.trustedfirmware.org, linux-mediatek@lists.infradead.org, xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org, nouveau@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-hams@vger.kernel.org, Nathan Chancellor , linux-can@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-hwmon@vger.kernel.org, Nick Desaulniers , linux-watchdog@vger.kernel.org, GR-Linux-NIC-Dev@marvell.com, linux-mm@kvack.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-decnet-user@lists.sourceforge.net, samba-technical@lists.samba.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-renesas-soc@vger.kernel.org, linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org, linux-usb@vger.kernel.org, tipc-discussion@lists.sourceforge.net, linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org, patches@opensource.cirrus.com, Joe Perches , linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org, linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org, linux-hardening@vger.kernel.org On Sun, Nov 22, 2020 at 11:53:55AM -0800, James Bottomley wrote: > On Sun, 2020-11-22 at 11:22 -0800, Joe Perches wrote: > > On Sun, 2020-11-22 at 11:12 -0800, James Bottomley wrote: > > > On Sun, 2020-11-22 at 10:25 -0800, Joe Perches wrote: > > > > On Sun, 2020-11-22 at 10:21 -0800, James Bottomley wrote: > > > > > Please tell me our reward for all this effort isn't a single > > > > > missing error print. > > > > > > > > There were quite literally dozens of logical defects found > > > > by the fallthrough additions. Very few were logging only. > > > > > > So can you give us the best examples (or indeed all of them if > > > someone is keeping score)? hopefully this isn't a US election > > > situation ... > > > > Gustavo? Are you running for congress now? > > > > https://lwn.net/Articles/794944/ > > That's 21 reported fixes of which about 50% seem to produce no change > in code behaviour at all, a quarter seem to have no user visible effect > with the remaining quarter producing unexpected errors on obscure > configuration parameters, which is why no-one really noticed them > before. The really important point here is the number of bugs this has prevented and will prevent in the future. See an example of this, below: https://lore.kernel.org/linux-iio/20190813135802.GB27392@kroah.com/ This work is still relevant, even if the total number of issues/bugs we find in the process is zero (which is not the case). "The sucky thing about doing hard work to deploy hardening is that the result is totally invisible by definition (things not happening) [..]" - Dmitry Vyukov Thanks -- Gustavo