From: Thomas Petazzoni <thomas.petazzoni@free-electrons.com>
To: buildroot@busybox.net
Subject: [Buildroot] [PATCH 02/12] package: enhance infrastructure to support source dir override
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 20:16:23 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110720201623.6093dff9@skate> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAAXf6LU0J60ycOfqtgUcy2K4ejVCk71oQiJ6YiWzOxfse8w__Q@mail.gmail.com>
Hello Thomas,
Thanks for the feedback!
Le Wed, 20 Jul 2011 08:42:36 +0200,
Thomas De Schampheleire <patrickdepinguin+buildroot@gmail.com> a ?crit :
> In one project package .mk file I added, I added support for an
> external source directory myself. The external source was under
> revision control. Because originally the build was made in that source
> directory, the 'status' command of the version control system would
> show a bunch of files created by the build system. You'd have to
> update the ignore file to add all these build objects (some of which
> don't follow a pattern like *.o).
> There was another problem with the in-tree building: you couldn't use
> the same source dir from two buildroot trees, as the configuration may
> be different and there would be continuous rebuilding necessary.
>
> When you say 'out-of-tree builds [..] wouldn't work well in a generic
> way for GENTARGETS', you mean that not all packages support this? What
> are the typical problems that arise?
Try with any random package that does not use autotools or CMake do not
out-of-tree build. Even a simple package such as zlib does not build
out-of-tree, even in native compilation. Basically, all packages that
are supported with the GENTARGETS infrastructure use some sort of
custom/home-made build system, and 99% of the time, this build system
does not support out-of-tree build.
> I think it would be a very good improvement if we could decouple the
> source from the build directory.
It would, but I don't see a good way of implementing this without
fighting with hundreds of upstream projects to get their build system
fixed.
> One workaround is to copy the source directory to output/build and
> do 'in-tree' building there. Ideally
> this would only be done for packages that have problems with
> out-of-tree building (and even more ideally these packages would be
> fixed). The disadvantages of this are obviously the extra time that it
> takes to make the copy, but also that it becomes more difficult to
> detect any changes in the original sources: when do you have to
> recopy?
Yes, I don't see this how this can work. The "source dir override"
feature is precisely here to help when Buildroot is used during
development, when you are hacking on your kernel, on a library or an
application. And in this case, you want a simple "make foobar-rebuild"
in Buildroot to rebuild the "foobar" package, without having to do
anything else.
> This brings me to the following point: for non-local packages, the
> whole package compilation process is restarted if a change in the
> source is detected (i.e. when the tarball is newer than the stamp
> files). How does this go about now?
Unless I missed something, I think the statement you are making is not
true. The dependencies between the various steps in the package build
process are expressed using phony targets, so I don't think changing
the tarball is going to re-trigger the build process of a particular
package.
When it comes to packages whose source directory has been overridden by
this new feature, it's up to the user to do "make foobar-rebuild".
Buildroot cannot guess which packages have changed, and redoing the
make + make install steps for all packages just in case would be
horribly slow.
> As far as I can see in the current patch, there is no such detection.
> If the original sources are changed, the developer has to force
> recompilation of the package (e.g. with the upcoming xxx-reconfigure
> targets). Is that correct, or is there another way?
This is correct, and I don't see another way of doing this. We could of
course add a new variable like BR_FORCED_PACKAGES, in which you could
list the packages that you want to be rebuilt+reinstall at every make
invocation. But this has a really nasty semantic, and I'd prefer not to
implement something like this.
Regards,
Thomas
--
Thomas Petazzoni, Free Electrons
Kernel, drivers, real-time and embedded Linux
development, consulting, training and support.
http://free-electrons.com
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-07-20 18:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-07-20 5:51 [Buildroot] [pull request] Pull request for branch for-2011.08/pkg-infra Thomas Petazzoni
2011-07-20 5:52 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 01/12] package: show complete URL for external-deps Thomas Petazzoni
2011-07-20 5:52 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 02/12] package: enhance infrastructure to support source dir override Thomas Petazzoni
2011-07-20 6:42 ` Thomas De Schampheleire
2011-07-20 18:16 ` Thomas Petazzoni [this message]
2011-07-24 15:03 ` Thomas De Schampheleire
2011-07-20 5:52 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 03/12] package: add configuration option to specify a local override file Thomas Petazzoni
2011-07-20 5:52 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 04/12] package: add <pkg>-rebuild and <pkg>-reconfigure Thomas Petazzoni
2011-07-20 5:52 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 05/12] package: implement a 'local' site method Thomas Petazzoni
2011-07-20 6:29 ` Thomas De Schampheleire
2011-07-20 18:19 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2011-07-24 14:50 ` Thomas De Schampheleire
2011-07-25 7:11 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2011-07-25 7:20 ` Yann E. MORIN
2011-07-25 8:37 ` Thomas De Schampheleire
2011-07-25 8:41 ` Yann E. MORIN
2011-07-25 8:47 ` Thomas De Schampheleire
2011-07-25 8:42 ` Thomas De Schampheleire
2011-07-25 9:00 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2011-07-28 7:52 ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2011-07-20 5:52 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 06/12] package: add helper functions to get package name and directory magically Thomas Petazzoni
2011-07-20 5:52 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 07/12] package: remove useless arguments from GENTARGETS Thomas Petazzoni
2011-07-20 5:52 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 08/12] package: remove useless arguments from AUTOTARGETS Thomas Petazzoni
2011-07-20 5:52 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 09/12] package: remove useless arguments from CMAKETARGETS Thomas Petazzoni
2011-07-20 5:52 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 10/12] Makefile.package.in: Pass non-prefixed name as argument to GENTARGETS_INNER Thomas Petazzoni
2011-07-20 16:03 ` Quotient Remainder
2011-07-20 19:19 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2011-07-20 5:52 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 11/12] Add support for local packages through 'file://' pseudo-protocol Thomas Petazzoni
2011-07-20 9:38 ` Thomas De Schampheleire
2011-07-20 5:52 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 12/12] fakeroot: remove target packages Thomas Petazzoni
2011-07-20 6:02 ` [Buildroot] [pull request] Pull request for branch for-2011.08/pkg-infra Thomas Petazzoni
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