From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Thomas Petazzoni Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2013 21:17:43 +0100 Subject: [Buildroot] What to do about systemd/udev/eudev? In-Reply-To: <20130304204731.3134cc5b569baf8ffeb5d3b0@kinali.ch> References: <1362312574-17701-1-git-send-email-olivier.schonken@gmail.com> <20130303195436.49654719@skate> <20130304204731.3134cc5b569baf8ffeb5d3b0@kinali.ch> Message-ID: <20130304211743.7ff322e9@skate> List-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: buildroot@busybox.net Dear Attila Kinali, On Mon, 4 Mar 2013 20:47:31 +0100, Attila Kinali wrote: > How about > (3) Wait a couple of months to see where this whole udev mess goes to. > > eudev is still pretty young and got started on the wrong foot (see the > the very poor presentation at FOSDEM). How Lennart and Kai are treating > non-systemd users is pretty much nazi like, IMHO and shows a great lack > of understanding how diverse the linux ecosystem is. Not only do we have > a lot of people who want a slim system that is easy to debug, there are > also enough people who need to squeeze out every kB they can get. And > these are left out by the current systemd development, because it doesn't > fit into the vision of Lennart and Kai. Why the heck would people caring about every KB use udev in the first place? Once again, we already have static /dev, devtmpfs and mdev support, and those are *way* more lightweight than udev. > So, to come back to the original issue, i would say just freeze the current > version and wait a couple of months until it either becomes clear what will > happen or incompatibilites force you to upgrade. Our udev version is 182, released March 2012, almost a year ago. Our systemd version is 44, released March 2012, almost a year ago. I think we've already waited 12 months. Isn't that enough? Best regards, Thomas -- Thomas Petazzoni, Free Electrons Kernel, drivers, real-time and embedded Linux development, consulting, training and support. http://free-electrons.com