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From: Thomas Petazzoni <thomas.petazzoni@free-electrons.com>
To: buildroot@busybox.net
Subject: [Buildroot] [PATCH 1/6] toolchain: introduce a toolchain knob for NPTL
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 23:51:16 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140217235116.50e59245@skate> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <53023FF5.7090703@mind.be>

Dear Arnout Vandecappelle,

On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 17:59:33 +0100, Arnout Vandecappelle wrote:

> >> support it, isn't there? So I would first remove the option completely
> >> for these architectures. That would also make adding a comment
> >> unnecessary (since it becomes an architecture feature rather than a
> >> toolchain option).
> > 
> > While I definitely agree for the internal toolchain backend, I don't
> > think this applies nicely with the external toolchain backend. We do
> > not control how the external toolchains are built, and it is perfectly
> > possible to build a non-NPTL toolchain on a NPTL-supported architecture
> > with Crosstool-NG for example.
> 
>  Yes, but we certainly don't support all of the possible toolchains that
> can be spat out by Crosstool-NG. At least, I don't think so...

We are supposed to support a good number of possible toolchains that
Crosstool-NG generates, even though it's true that we do not support
all the possible funky uClibc configurations that one could create with
Crosstool-NG. We also don't support these in Buildroot, while we do
ensure that the uClibc configuration matches the threading model
selected in the Buildroot configuration.

> > However, this kind of strategy might fail quite quickly for "growing"
> > architectures. For example, ARC currently does not have NPTL support,
> > but since they appear to be quite active, maybe they will implement
> > NPTL support at some point. And at this moment we will have a range of
> > stable, well-tested toolchains that are non-NPTL, and the possibility
> > of building NPTL-capable, but not fully tested toolchains.
> 
>  But that's indeed a very good point that I didn't think of. Indeed, for
> these we'll want to support both NPTL and LinuxThreads, therefore we
> still need the comments.
> 
>  Taking that aspect into consideration, removing the LinuxThreads options
> is not bringing any real advantage. So forget I ever mentioned it :-)

Ok, thanks for your feedback!

Best regards,

Thomas
-- 
Thomas Petazzoni, CTO, Free Electrons
Embedded Linux, Kernel and Android engineering
http://free-electrons.com

  reply	other threads:[~2014-02-17 22:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-02-13 13:22 [Buildroot] [PATCH 0/6] Add toolchain knob for NPTL Thomas Petazzoni
2014-02-13 13:22 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 1/6] toolchain: introduce a " Thomas Petazzoni
2014-02-17  7:11   ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2014-02-17  8:03     ` Thomas Petazzoni
2014-02-17 16:59       ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2014-02-17 22:51         ` Thomas Petazzoni [this message]
2014-02-17 22:08   ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2014-02-17 22:57     ` Thomas Petazzoni
2014-02-17 23:09       ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2014-02-13 13:22 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 2/6] docs/manual: indicate how to handle BR2_TOOLCHAIN_HAS_THREADS_NPTL Thomas Petazzoni
2014-02-13 13:46   ` Thomas De Schampheleire
2014-02-13 13:55     ` Thomas Petazzoni
2014-02-13 13:22 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 3/6] rt-tests: use BR2_TOOLCHAIN_HAS_THREADS_NPTL Thomas Petazzoni
2014-02-13 13:22 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 4/6] sconeserver: " Thomas Petazzoni
2014-02-13 13:22 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 5/6] tvheadend: " Thomas Petazzoni
2014-02-13 13:22 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 6/6] qt5: needs NPTL threads Thomas Petazzoni
2014-02-13 13:46 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 0/6] Add toolchain knob for NPTL Mike Zick
2014-02-18 21:06   ` Thomas Petazzoni

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