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From: Yann E. MORIN <yann.morin.1998@free.fr>
To: buildroot@busybox.net
Subject: [Buildroot] [PATCH] Makefile: document make <package>-dirclean
Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2014 22:10:47 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140619201047.GC3534@free.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <409511316.213968.1403203738913.JavaMail.root@mail>

Vivien, All,

On 2014-06-19 14:48 -0400, Vivien Didelot spake thusly:
> > > @@ -849,6 +849,7 @@ help:
> > >  	@echo '  toolchain              - build toolchain'
> > >  	@echo '  <package>-rebuild      - force recompile <package>'
> > >  	@echo '  <package>-reconfigure  - force reconfigure <package>'
> > > +	@echo '  <package>-dirclean     - remove the whole <package>
> > > build directory'
[--SNIP--]
> > I believe we should only document the _very important_ commands in
> > the
> > 'make help' text, and direct the user to the manual for the others.
> 
> Having only a portion of commands is confusing.
> 
> I would say, either put every package commands in `make help` or
> no `make <package>-foo` commands at all.

Well, I think we should still document a few important, usefull actions;
see below.

> > E.g.
> > something like:
> > 
> >     $ make help
> >     [...]
> >     Build:
> >       all                    - make world
> >       toolchain              - build toolchain
> >       <package>-rebuild      - force recompile <package>
> >       <package>-reconfigure  - force reconfigure <package>
> >       <package>-graph-depends    - generate graph of the dependency
> >       tree for package
> >         See the manual
> >         [http://buildroot.net/downloads/manual/manual.html] for
> >         the complete list of per-package build actions.
> 
> I'd remove the <package>-* command from `make help` and point to the
> in-tree documentation instead (docs/manual/rebuilding-packages.txt).

Note: everything in docs/manual/ is the source of the (on-line) manual.
Although readable as-is, it only gets really properly readable once
rendered into the manual.

So, I would not point to the content of docs/manual/ but to the on-line
manual, instead.

> That'd look like:
> 
>     $ make help
>     [...]
>     Build:
>       all (or "world"?)      - make world
>       toolchain              - build toolchain
>       <package>              - compile only <package>
>       <package>-<action>     - See the manual [docs/manual/rebuilding-packages.txt]
>                                for the list of per-package build actions.
>     [...]
> 
> What do you think?

'world' is an internal goal. The entry point is the 'all' gaol, and also the
default goal if no other is specified. I think we should not document
'world'.

Adding '<package>' is OK, but we should keep 'rebuild', 'reconfigure'
and 'graph-depends':
  - we want to prominently advertise the mere existence of 'graph-depends'
    to the unsuspecting user,
  - 'rebuild' and 'reconfigure' are important enough so we probably want
    to maintain them.

With those three acting as a template, and the pointer to the manual,
the user should (hopefully) easily:
  - find the other actions (from the manual)
  - remember how to toggle those actions (by memory and pattern matching
    with the actions visible in the 'make help' output)

But I usually suck at designing user-centric UI. One could say I'm a
weird, uncommon user with a tortured, twisted mind. ;-]

Regards,
Yann E. MORIN.

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  reply	other threads:[~2014-06-19 20:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-06-19 17:44 [Buildroot] [PATCH] Makefile: document make <package>-dirclean Vivien Didelot
2014-06-19 18:26 ` Yann E. MORIN
2014-06-19 18:48   ` Vivien Didelot
2014-06-19 20:10     ` Yann E. MORIN [this message]
2014-06-20  9:28       ` Luca Ceresoli
2014-06-20 20:07         ` Yann E. MORIN
2014-06-20  9:40       ` Thomas De Schampheleire
2014-06-20 10:11         ` Thomas Petazzoni
2014-06-20 20:12           ` Yann E. MORIN
2014-06-20  8:27   ` Luca Ceresoli

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