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From: Yann E. MORIN <yann.morin.1998@free.fr>
To: buildroot@busybox.net
Subject: [Buildroot] [PATCH v7 3/8] core: implement per-package SDK and target
Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2018 15:45:34 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181231144534.GB21682@scaer> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20181231153101.387c7d57@windsurf>

Thomas, All,

On 2018-12-31 15:31 +0100, Thomas Petazzoni spake thusly:
> On Sun, 30 Dec 2018 22:52:12 +0100, Yann E. MORIN wrote:
> > > There are two main benefits:
> > >  - Packages will no longer discover dependencies that they do not
> > >    explicitly indicate in their <pkg>_DEPENDENCIES variable.  
> > Note that non-expressed dependencies may still be gathered, if they are
> > transitive dependencies.
> Yes, of course, but what can we do about this ?

What I mean is, if

  - A needs B and C, but has a dependency only on B,
  - B depends on C,

then the dependency of A to C is fullfilled, even though it is missing
in the dependencies. I.e, it is a _hidden_ dependency. It is not
"explicitly indicate[d] in A_DEPENDENCIES" but still gathered.

And no, there is nothing we can do about it.

> It's pretty logical and
> obvious that transitive dependencies will be copied, no ?

Not as you wrote it.

So, you could rephrase as:

    Packages will now see only the dependencies they explicitly list in
    their <pkg>_DEPENDENCIES variable, and the recursive dependencies
    thereof.

> > > +PER_PACKAGE_DIR := $(BASE_DIR)/per-package  
> > 
> > Why don't you simply export this variable, like HOST_DIR and TARGET_DIR?
> > This would simplify calls to fix-rpath:
> 
> Because I generally don't like those global exports. It pollutes the
> namespace with some random variable that is really internal to
> Buildroot. There is no reason for the build system of all packages to
> even see this variable. In fact, I am personally not a big fan of
> exporting TARGET_DIR, STAGING_DIR, etc. since they become visible in
> packages, and people tend to use them in their package build system,
> which is very wrong.
> 
> Of course, if the overall consensus is that PER_PACKAGE_DIR should be
> exported, I'll do so because I don't want to hold this series just for
> this detail.

Oh, I would tend to agree with you.

I'm just pointing a discrepancy in the way those variables are handled,
and I think it is good to have some consistency, especially in this
difficult topic, even though said consistency's not very nice...

[--SNIP--]
> > > @@ -77,6 +93,7 @@ check_elf_has_rpath() {
> > >              dir="$( sed -r -e 's:/+:/:g; s:/$::;' <<<"${dir}" )"
> > >              [ "${dir}" = "${hostdir}/lib" ] && return 0
> > >              [ "${dir}" = "\$ORIGIN/../lib" ] && return 0
> > > +            [[ ${dir} =~ ${perpackagedir}/[^/]*/host/lib ]] && return 0  
> >                                             ^^^^^^^
> > That would also match the string '//' so maybe we want:
> > 
> >     ${perpackagedir}/([^/]+/)?host/lib
> 
> I'm not sure to understand the ? in ([^/]+/)?. We definitely want one
> path component between $(PER_PACKAGE_DIR) and host/lib. So what about:
> 
> 	${perpackagedir}/[^/]+/host/lib

Yes, that is it (and is what I eventually suggested in my review of
patch 5 (about fixing libtool.la files).

> > > +        if test "${rpath}" != "${changed_rpath}" ; then
> > > +            ${PATCHELF} --set-rpath ${changed_rpath} "${file}"  
> > 
> > Can't you do that unconditioanlly? If it's changed, we need to set it;
> > if it's not changed, that set it to the initial value anyway...
> 
> There is a reason to do it conditionally: patchelf is slow, you don't
> want to run patchelf when you don't need to, and here it's trivial to
> know whether it is useful or not to run it. For example, this condition
> ensures that people not using per-package directory don't pay the cost
> of running all those additional patchelf invocations.

OK.

Thanks! :-)

Regards,
Yann E. MORIN.

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  reply	other threads:[~2018-12-31 14:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-12-28 10:43 [Buildroot] [PATCH v7 0/8] Top-level parallel build support Thomas Petazzoni
2018-12-28 10:43 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH v7 1/8] support/scripts/check-host-rpath: document existing functions Thomas Petazzoni
2018-12-28 12:47   ` Yann E. MORIN
2019-01-17 21:33   ` Peter Korsgaard
2018-12-28 10:43 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH v7 2/8] Makefile: move definition of TARGET_DIR inside .config condition Thomas Petazzoni
2018-12-28 12:49   ` Yann E. MORIN
2019-01-17 21:35   ` Peter Korsgaard
2018-12-28 10:43 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH v7 3/8] core: implement per-package SDK and target Thomas Petazzoni
2018-12-30 21:52   ` Yann E. MORIN
2018-12-31 14:31     ` Thomas Petazzoni
2018-12-31 14:45       ` Yann E. MORIN [this message]
2019-01-08 18:02   ` Jan Kundrát
2019-11-05 16:38     ` Thomas Petazzoni
2019-11-05 19:05       ` Carlos Santos
2019-11-06  7:57         ` Thomas Petazzoni
2019-11-06  8:13           ` Jan Kundrát
2018-12-28 10:43 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH v7 4/8] Makefile: allow top-level parallel build with BR2_PER_PACKAGE_DIRECTORIES=y Thomas Petazzoni
2018-12-28 12:51   ` Yann E. MORIN
2018-12-28 10:43 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH v7 5/8] package/pkg-generic: make libtool .la files compatible with per-package directories Thomas Petazzoni
2018-12-31  8:44   ` Yann E. MORIN
2018-12-28 10:43 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH v7 6/8] package/pkg-kconfig: handle KCONFIG_DEPENDENCIES " Thomas Petazzoni
2018-12-28 10:43 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH v7 7/8] docs/manual: add details about top-level parallel build support Thomas Petazzoni
2018-12-28 13:03   ` Yann E. MORIN
2018-12-28 13:08     ` Thomas Petazzoni
2018-12-31  8:46       ` Yann E. MORIN
2018-12-28 10:43 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH v7 8/8] docs/manual: document the effect of per-package directory on variables Thomas Petazzoni
2018-12-28 17:21 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH v7 0/8] Top-level parallel build support Thomas Petazzoni
2019-02-22 16:18   ` Andreas Naumann
2019-02-22 18:07     ` Vadim Kochan
2019-02-22 20:29       ` Thomas Petazzoni
2019-02-25  1:10         ` Vadim Kochan
2019-02-25  8:05           ` Thomas Petazzoni
2019-02-25  8:33             ` Vadim Kochan
2019-03-01 14:50             ` Vadym Kochan
2019-03-01 17:18               ` Yann E. MORIN
2019-03-04  7:24                 ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2019-03-04 10:22                   ` Thomas Petazzoni

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