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From: Thomas Petazzoni via buildroot <buildroot@buildroot.org>
To: "Yann E. MORIN" <yann.morin.1998@free.fr>
Cc: "Bernd Kuhls" <bernd.kuhls@t-online.de>,
	"Michael Ellerman" <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	"Joel Stanley" <joel@jms.id.au>,
	buildroot@buildroot.org, "Romain Naour" <romain.naour@gmail.com>,
	"Cédric Le Goater" <clg@kaod.org>
Subject: Re: [Buildroot] [PATCH 1/9] arch/powerpc: Hide SPE ABI behind CPU type
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2022 23:22:21 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220803232221.691911fe@windsurf> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220729211755.GE1554632@scaer>

Hello,

On Fri, 29 Jul 2022 23:17:55 +0200
"Yann E. MORIN" <yann.morin.1998@free.fr> wrote:

> I don't understand this change. Currently we have:
> 
>  1. If BR2_POWERPC_CPU_HAS_SPE=y:
>     BR2_powerpc_CLASSIC is not selectable
>     BR2_powerpc_SPE is the only choice
> 
>   2. if BR2_POWERPC_CPU_HAS_SPE is not set:
>     BR2_powerpc_CLASSIC is the only choice
>     BR2_powerpc_SPE is not selectable
> 
> This means that the choice was really nt a choice, because the value of
> HAS_SPE implies which option is settable or not.
> 
> With your change, the BR2_powerpc_CLASSIC will never be selectable at
> all, and BR2_powerpc_SPE will be forcibly set when
> BR2_POWERPC_CPU_HAS_SPE=y
> 
> So we should just drop the choice altogether, and use the SPE ABI when
> the CPu has SPE.

I agree with your analysis here. I would like to go one step further:
SPE is only used by two PowerPC cores:

config BR2_powerpc_8540
        bool "8540 / e500v1"
        depends on !BR2_ARCH_IS_64
        select BR2_POWERPC_CPU_HAS_SPE
config BR2_powerpc_8548
        bool "8548 / e500v2"
        depends on !BR2_ARCH_IS_64
        select BR2_POWERPC_CPU_HAS_SPE

and SPE is no longer supported by upstream GCC. For now, we have kept
GCC 8.x around just to support this SPE ABI, but it is clearly not a
future proof solution.

Can we drop support for SPE entirely?

Best regards,

Thomas
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Embedded Linux and Kernel engineering and training
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  reply	other threads:[~2022-08-03 21:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-07-29  0:08 [Buildroot] [PATCH 0/9] powerpc: Fix ppc64le configurations Joel Stanley
2022-07-29  0:08 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 1/9] arch/powerpc: Hide SPE ABI behind CPU type Joel Stanley
2022-07-29  6:48   ` Cédric Le Goater
2022-07-29 21:17   ` Yann E. MORIN
2022-08-03 21:22     ` Thomas Petazzoni via buildroot [this message]
2022-08-05  6:05       ` Joel Stanley
2022-08-05 15:46         ` Yann E. MORIN
2022-07-29  0:08 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 2/9] arch/powerpc: Clarify generic CPUs Joel Stanley
2022-07-29  6:48   ` Cédric Le Goater
2022-07-29 21:25   ` Yann E. MORIN
2022-08-03 21:28   ` Thomas Petazzoni via buildroot
2022-07-29  0:08 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 3/9] arch/powerpc: Enable powerpc64le only on CPUs that support it Joel Stanley
2022-07-29  6:52   ` Cédric Le Goater
2022-07-29 21:37     ` Yann E. MORIN
2022-07-30 21:18       ` Cédric Le Goater
2022-07-31  6:43         ` Yann E. MORIN
2022-07-29 21:33   ` Yann E. MORIN
2022-08-03 21:32   ` Thomas Petazzoni via buildroot
2022-09-18 10:23   ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2022-09-20 17:09     ` Cédric Le Goater
2022-09-20 20:32       ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2022-09-18 10:24   ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2022-07-29  0:08 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 4/9] package/glibc: Use powerpc64le instead of power8 Joel Stanley
2022-07-29  6:52   ` Cédric Le Goater
2022-07-29 21:41   ` Yann E. MORIN
2022-09-18 10:42   ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2022-07-29  0:09 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 5/9] arch/powerpc: Add Power9 CPU type Joel Stanley
2022-07-29  6:53   ` Cédric Le Goater
2022-07-29 21:42   ` Yann E. MORIN
2022-09-18 10:43   ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2022-07-29  0:09 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 6/9] arch/powerpc: Add Power10 " Joel Stanley
2022-07-29  6:53   ` Cédric Le Goater
2022-07-29  0:09 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 7/9] package/mesa3d: Remove force disable of power8 Joel Stanley
2022-07-29  6:54   ` Cédric Le Goater
2022-07-29  0:09 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 8/9] package/zlib-ng: Revert Power8 special casing Joel Stanley
2022-07-29  6:55   ` Cédric Le Goater
2022-07-29  0:09 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 9/9] package/openblas: Add Power9 and Power10 targets Joel Stanley
2022-07-29  6:55   ` Cédric Le Goater
2022-08-03 21:07 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 0/9] powerpc: Fix ppc64le configurations Yann E. MORIN

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