From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: =?windows-1252?Q?Stefan_Fr=F6berg?= Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 13:55:57 +0200 Subject: [Buildroot] Report from the Buildroot Developers Meeting In-Reply-To: <511A19A8.4020307@relinux.de> References: <20130209004253.207e0741@skate> <511A19A8.4020307@relinux.de> Message-ID: <511A2DCD.4050004@petroprogram.com> List-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: buildroot@busybox.net >> What to do with systemd/udev/eudev: we try to use the udev from >> systemd without systemd. Exactly how we don't know yet... There's a >> risk that udev becomes unusable without systemd, but Leonard >> Poettering promised this would not happen. After a quick look, it >> turns out that you always end up building systemd, which requires >> dbus, even if you need only udev. So it makes the systemd source >> tarball a bit unpractical to build a system that uses udev only, and >> doesn't need systemd. Probably an indication that we should have a >> look at eudev? How would this interact with the systemd selection? >> What about incompatibilities between udev and eudev? > What about using a different udev version with or without systemd? This > would allow using a recent systemd version while systems without it > could use the old udev or eudev, even as an option. Here's what Linux from Scratch project does http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/development/chapter06/udev.html They just rip the udev off from the latest systemd tarball (systemd-197.tar.xz) and use that. >> Switching to ct-ng as the default toolchain backend has been in the >> plans for several years. But since it's not the default backend it >> isn't getting a lot of attention (example: for several months it was >> broken, libraries were not copied to the target, and it took a lot of >> time for somebody to notice). > Regarding the toolchain I want to say that I really like buildroot's > ability to build a toolchain. Ditto. I like it too that buildroot has all in the box and that I don't need to have any separate cross-compiler toolchain installed. And also the fact that I don't have to muck with any possible config problems of external cross-compiler. Regards Stefan