From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Gustavo Zacarias Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 19:45:06 -0300 Subject: [Buildroot] [PATCH 1/3] qemu-system: new package In-Reply-To: <20141020231635.5e5e2cf8@free-electrons.com> References: <1399148415-27648-1-git-send-email-gustavo@zacarias.com.ar> <20141012171752.29414e94@free-electrons.com> <543AD090.3000107@zacarias.com.ar> <543EA87A.2050204@mind.be> <543FCDD6.9070104@zacarias.com.ar> <54419C9C.7050705@mind.be> <5441BEDE.1000102@zacarias.com.ar> <54441E9F.8080802@mind.be> <20141019225451.3aa6176e@free-electrons.com> <54446B1B.2090201@zacarias.com.ar> <5445656E.9010404@mind.be> <20141020231635.5e5e2cf8@free-electrons.com> Message-ID: <54459072.6060003@zacarias.com.ar> List-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: buildroot@busybox.net On 10/20/2014 06:16 PM, Thomas Petazzoni wrote: >>> The side effect is that it pushes my motivation to contribute to >>> buildroot to an all-time low (read that as you wish, in fact it may not >>> even matter). >> >> Since you're the #1 buildroot contributor and have been for some time now, it >> really does matter! > > Yes, it clearly matters. I'm a bit sad to see that this specific story > has affected your motivation. However, on this story, you had your own > idea, and basically rejected the comments that were made. That's not > really the best way to push things forward: maybe doing a concession > sometimes helps, and thanks to this concession, you might prove at a > later point that people were wrong and you were right from the > beginning :) The same can be said the opposite way don't you think? This patchset has been sitting for almost a year now with no action on the counterproposal from anyone. The likely outcome is that the feature will still be missing until the next release cycle. Either the feature is not interesting and/or wanted, or contributors just lack time, with my time being wasted, waiting (possibly not very patiently at times) for someone else to follow-up on the alternative. I won't make a concession on this because i really don't believe it's the proper course of action, it's that simple, deal with it. It's not that i'm stubborn, i've changed opinion in many occasions, and i'm not seeking to "rub it off" - if i wanted to do so i could just say "hashes" which i've proposed years ago with the idea being very much rejected at the time - i'm not interested in that. It could be well thought-out from the start without the need to fix issues that were foreseen later. It's dissapointing to just sum up commits doing banal stuff even if they're important, to then get the cold shoulder when what i feel are interesting or progressive ideas get delayed and/or rejected. My feeling is that i'm just wasting my time if i make any serious effort to improve things, so basically i give up. At this point i would have hoped that i've earned some trust with my technical choices, but it feels like not. That doesn't mean i want a blank check on decisions, don't get that interpretation out of it. In the end it's not the number of commits that count, that's not an indication of who's #1, #3 or anything, it may be fun but that's it. The momentum is what makes projects great. And mine wrt buildroot has been neutralized, i'll just care about my little ranch: no autobuild fixing except what i break, no improvements except for what i care, no ACKs, no Tested-bys, no #buildroot IRC, no opinions and so on. Time will tell if i feel like getting back to that or i'll just dial down the notch on general involvement permanently (there's a saying which i think is quite universal "never say never"). Sometimes you win sometimes you lose, in both the project and personal levels. I hope i've articulated this mail correctly. Regards.