From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Arnout Vandecappelle Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2015 00:18:15 +0200 Subject: [Buildroot] Towards 2015.05-rc1 In-Reply-To: <20150419230245.64cf1410@free-electrons.com> References: <20150419220053.2c1d5b62@free-electrons.com> <20150419230245.64cf1410@free-electrons.com> Message-ID: <55381E27.4020502@mind.be> List-Id: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: buildroot@busybox.net On 04/19/15 23:02, Thomas Petazzoni wrote: > Bernd, > > On Sun, 19 Apr 2015 22:14:24 +0200, Bernd Kuhls wrote: > >> if possible and time allows for all involved persons I would like to see the >> libudev series stuff in the next buildroot release. > > As far as I remember, someone needs to take over this series, no? I > believe you originally authored it, then Yann took over, then Peter > proposed to take over but did not resend it as far as I know. > > On my side, I am still a bit concerned by the usefulness of this > series. The use cases you have are anyway running big things (Kodi, > etc.) so I'm not sure why running udevd or not makes a big difference. > It does seem a lot of additional complexity for not such a huge > benefit. Since udev rules are IMHO a lot more complicated than mdev rules and you usually don't need that complexity in embedded systems, I think there really is a case to be made for avoiding full udev. Of course, it's always possible to remove the udev start script in a post-build script (which effectively makes udev dead code), but it is definitely nice to know which packages will work without udev running. So that's what I would like this libudev stuff to do. For example, I have one system that used to be based on mdev. Now we have to add modem-manager to it, and modem-manager depends on udev. So I've enabled udev, but now I have to replace the mdev rules with udev rules and I probably also have to get rid of some of the default udev rules which are not appropriate. Regards, Arnout -- Arnout Vandecappelle arnout at mind be Senior Embedded Software Architect +32-16-286500 Essensium/Mind http://www.mind.be G.Geenslaan 9, 3001 Leuven, Belgium BE 872 984 063 RPR Leuven LinkedIn profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/arnoutvandecappelle GPG fingerprint: 7CB5 E4CC 6C2E EFD4 6E3D A754 F963 ECAB 2450 2F1F