From: Arnout Vandecappelle <arnout@mind.be>
To: buildroot@busybox.net
Subject: [Buildroot] [PATCH 10/16] arch/arm: add support for hard-float on Cortex-M4
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2016 22:47:28 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <56EC7770.2080508@mind.be> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160317091624.157165ef@free-electrons.com>
On 03/17/16 09:16, Thomas Petazzoni wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On Thu, 17 Mar 2016 00:45:19 +0100, Arnout Vandecappelle wrote:
>> On 03/16/16 22:43, Thomas Petazzoni wrote:
>>> Cortex-M4 cores can optionally have a FPv4-SP floating point unit
>>> (which is different than the VFPv4). This commit adds the necessary
>>> Config.in options to allow the user to enable the use of this FPU, and
>>> to build an EABIhf toolchain for Cortex-M4.
>>>
>>> Note that for now the kernel does not have CONFIG_VFP support for
>>> ARMv7-M, so in practice, this VFP support cannot really be used for
>>> the moment.
>>
>> As in, when you select this option, then your target will fail dramatically
>> because it's hardfloat so even a simple printf will crash violently if a
>> reschedule happens in the middle?
>
> My tests show that a VFP-using userspace indeed doesn't start. I've
> mailed the STM32 kernel maintainer to see what the plans are in terms
> of FPU support.
>
>> If so, I'm not so sure we really want this option...
>
> Agreed. I saw that the STM32F4 had a FPU, so I wanted to support that,
> and it's only when I started testing on HW that I realized that the
> kernel CONFIG_VFP option could not be enabled for this platform.
>
> Depending on the answer from the STM32 kernel maintainer, I will either
> drop or keep (disabled in some form?) this floating point support.
It's also an option to just keep it lingering in patchwork for a while.
>
>>> config BR2_ARM_ENABLE_VFP
>>> bool "Enable VFP extension support"
>>
>> As I understand it (but I could be wrong), FPv4 is not again different from
>> VFP, i.e. it's again a different ABI (like softfloat and VFP are different
>> ABIs). At least, you get different flags in the ELF files. So I would tend to
>> really make a separate option for FPv4, to avoid all confusion. That is,
>> assuming that I'm right about it being a different ABI.
>>
>> Note that in practice it doesn't make much of a difference becaus you never
>> have both VFP and FPv4 on the same processor. Well, at least for the time being
>> - who knows what kind of ugliness ARM will still invent :-)
>
> The BR2_ARM_ENABLE_VFP option is *not* about choosing the ABI. The
> BR2_ARM_ENABLE_VFP option is only here for cores that have an
> *optional* FPU so that the user can say whether his specific SoC has
> chosen to include the FPU or not.
Oops my bad, I was confusing it with the BR2_ARM_FPU_* options.
Regards,
Arnout
>
> If you for example have an hypothetical Cortex-M5 core that has a
> mandatory FPU, then this BR2_ARM_ENABLE_VFP option would not appear, as
> we know all Cortex-M5 based SoCs have FPU.
>
> Thomas
>
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Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-03-16 21:43 [Buildroot] [PATCH 00/16] ARM Cortex-M support Thomas Petazzoni
2016-03-16 21:43 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 01/16] arch/arm: introduce and use BR2_ARM_CPU_ARMV7M Thomas Petazzoni
2016-03-16 22:29 ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2016-03-16 21:43 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 02/16] arch/arm: Cortex-M3 provides only Thumb-2 Thomas Petazzoni
2016-03-16 22:43 ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2016-03-17 8:03 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2016-03-17 11:08 ` Peter Korsgaard
2016-03-17 13:06 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2016-03-17 20:36 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2016-03-17 22:34 ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2016-03-16 21:43 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 03/16] arch/arm: add Cortex-M4 entry Thomas Petazzoni
2016-03-16 22:50 ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2016-03-16 21:43 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 04/16] uclibc: Enable compile in thumb mode when selected Thomas Petazzoni
2016-03-16 23:01 ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2016-03-17 11:21 ` Peter Korsgaard
2016-03-17 13:10 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2016-03-17 21:25 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2016-03-17 21:44 ` Peter Korsgaard
2016-03-17 22:03 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2016-03-17 22:18 ` Peter Korsgaard
2016-03-16 21:43 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 05/16] uclibc: disable DOPIC on ARM noMMU Thomas Petazzoni
2016-03-16 23:09 ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2016-03-17 8:06 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2016-03-17 10:32 ` Max Filippov
2016-03-17 11:00 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2016-03-17 11:39 ` Max Filippov
2016-03-16 21:43 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 06/16] uclibc: NPTL thread implementation only available on MMU platforms Thomas Petazzoni
2016-03-16 23:11 ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2016-03-17 12:14 ` Peter Korsgaard
2016-03-17 13:11 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2016-03-17 19:45 ` Waldemar Brodkorb
2016-03-17 20:08 ` Peter Korsgaard
2016-03-16 21:43 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 07/16] musl: build broken on Thumb, use ARM mode Thomas Petazzoni
2016-03-16 23:14 ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2016-03-17 8:10 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2016-03-16 21:43 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 08/16] toolchain-buildroot: update glibc comment for noMMU Thomas Petazzoni
2016-03-16 23:18 ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2016-03-18 20:49 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2016-03-18 20:59 ` Peter Korsgaard
2016-03-18 21:33 ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2016-03-16 21:43 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 09/16] toolchain-buildroot: don't show musl on noMMU platforms Thomas Petazzoni
2016-03-16 23:26 ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2016-03-18 20:51 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2016-03-18 21:42 ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2016-03-16 21:43 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 10/16] arch/arm: add support for hard-float on Cortex-M4 Thomas Petazzoni
2016-03-16 23:45 ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2016-03-17 8:16 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2016-03-18 21:47 ` Arnout Vandecappelle [this message]
2016-03-18 22:29 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2016-03-16 21:43 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 11/16] package/Makefile.in: adjust LDFLAGS for elf2flt Thomas Petazzoni
2016-03-16 23:48 ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2016-03-16 21:43 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 12/16] elf2flt: use new upstream site and add ARM patch Thomas Petazzoni
2016-03-16 23:50 ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2016-03-17 8:18 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2016-03-17 18:53 ` Mike Frysinger
2016-03-17 19:41 ` Waldemar Brodkorb
2016-03-17 20:34 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2016-03-17 20:45 ` Mike Frysinger
2016-03-17 19:39 ` Waldemar Brodkorb
2016-03-16 21:43 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 13/16] elf2flt: disable Werror to avoid build issues Thomas Petazzoni
2016-03-16 23:53 ` Arnout Vandecappelle
2016-03-17 8:18 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2016-03-17 1:40 ` Mike Frysinger
2016-03-17 8:19 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2016-03-17 18:57 ` Mike Frysinger
2016-03-16 21:43 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 14/16] afboot-stm32: use the Buildroot toolchain Thomas Petazzoni
2016-03-16 21:43 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 15/16] configs/stm32f429_disco: new configuration for STM32F429 Discovery board Thomas Petazzoni
2016-03-16 21:43 ` [Buildroot] [PATCH 16/16] configs/stm32f469_disco: new configuration for STM32F469 " Thomas Petazzoni
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