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MORIN" To: Thomas Petazzoni Message-ID: References: <20240822183742.3550055-1-dario.binacchi@amarulasolutions.com> <20240822183742.3550055-2-dario.binacchi@amarulasolutions.com> <20240823181741.499173f2@windsurf> <20240829234737.38039ef5@windsurf> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20240829234737.38039ef5@windsurf> X-Mailman-Original-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=free.fr; s=smtp-20201208; t=1725003178; bh=aRn/rMDNf3AdoFJIXpW2tZB9pzADOg4yhnWRqNQ24a4=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=pteFCfBFeEBszH44PE0pGeGjmRRm2w3E0xNHztP6iNahuxVjC1v1uidTjVlu9TP5d EyyzAfW2W8XrpQB4vdQ8qtR6yEuacigoM7MBL7MpylxNUgOOOfqGJNCNF8isCeBVA8 82L74oLs8dBy+1UBySGgAQpYWlpHty4pqjkNQDVaOdeNSusySjnOitwhpZK+y6zSOQ Kk98ngIqW8L+nEq5LqIys0FQL6JWMj/nmywPAK8e7jrIneyQao707XVBR5yZtZGJkR L/nhE/IuUMrKJWwwBpGO+dCGaFB4pr4VS7udhj9XrPv5IHAQRNT4W64vfFFyXLlKF5 +B1edHGYnMJgQ== X-Mailman-Original-Authentication-Results: smtp4.osuosl.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=free.fr X-Mailman-Original-Authentication-Results: smtp4.osuosl.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key, unprotected) header.d=free.fr header.i=@free.fr header.a=rsa-sha256 header.s=smtp-20201208 header.b=pteFCfBF Subject: Re: [Buildroot] [PATCH v3 1/3] package/tinyinit: new package X-BeenThere: buildroot@buildroot.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion and development of buildroot List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Damien Le Moal , Dario Binacchi , linux-amarula@amarulasolutions.com, buildroot@buildroot.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: buildroot-bounces@buildroot.org Sender: "buildroot" Thomas, All, On 2024-08-29 23:47 +0200, Thomas Petazzoni spake thusly: > On Tue, 27 Aug 2024 22:07:04 +0200 > "Yann E. MORIN" wrote: > > As Dario already pointed out, that was my suggestion to drop it from the > > init selection. [--SNIP--] > I understand your point, but: > > (1) It is really unclear for the user that they have to chose "None" as > init to be able to use tinyinit (tinyinit is proposed with depends > on BR2_INIT_NONE) > (2) Due to (1), Dario has added a "tinyinit needs BR2_INIT_NONE, i. e. > no init system installed" Config.in comment, which I also find odd To me, it really all looked very obvious, exactly thanks to the comment. tiniy-init is also not a reaper, which dos not really make it an init either... Note that tini does not install itself as /init or /sbin/init, but just as /usr/bin/tini (and a symlink in /usr/libexec/docker/docker-init); tini is also a reaper. > So while I understand your point that tinyinit or tini don't need as > much infrastructure/logic as busybox init/sysvinit/systemd/openrc, I > find the current way they are presented to be very weird (but I can > live with it). Then I think we should also organise the selection list, like: Init system *** General purpose *** ( ) BusyBox ( ) systemV ( ) OpenRC ( ) systemd *** Special purpose, read help *** ( ) tini ( ) tinyinit ( ) Custom (aka none) *** My br2-ext (in /path/to/my-br2-ext) *** ( ) my-init (br2-external entries are added by support/scripts/br2-external). Regards, Yann E. MORIN. -- .-----------------.--------------------.------------------.--------------------. | Yann E. 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