From: "Matt W. Benjamin" <matt@linuxbox.com>
To: Sage Weil <sweil@redhat.com>
Cc: "Christopher R. Hertel" <crh@redhat.com>,
ceph-devel@vger.kernel.org, Gregory Farnum <greg@inktank.com>
Subject: Re: Ceph authentication/authorization paradignms
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 12:43:02 -0400 (EDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <197304281.99.1408639382605.JavaMail.root@thunderbeast.private.linuxbox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1288213759.97.1408639348899.JavaMail.root@thunderbeast.private.linuxbox.com>
This approach/family of approaches is certainly the one taken by all classical Kerberized file sharing systems, including AFS, DCE, and NFSv4.
There's a lot of new work just coming to fruition now in both the AFS and NFSv4 communities (rxgk and RPCSEC_GSS, respectively) that are specifically designed to handle important next-generation multi-party authorization scenarios, and which I think we would be wise to at least have a look at.
Regards,
Matt
> >
> > Right. But you'll either need to plug Kerberos into the
> client<->mon
> > authentication pathways, or (this would be my naive choice) have
> some
> > sort of agent that Kerberos authenticates and then gives the client
> > its CephX shared secret for authenticating with the monitors
> (without
> > the users having to get involved). Either way, there's at least a
> > little CephX integration going on, right?
> > Or am I completely off the mark with what you're trying to do here?
>
> My thought is the former. We'd add a new CEPH_AUTH_* type, the client
>
> side would call into kerberos and get a kerberos ticket to pass to the
>
> mon, and the mon would call into kerberos to authenticate it. That
> would
> authenticate the session.
>
> I assume there will then be some futzing around to make things behave
> so
> that the mon will provide the client cephx tickets for interactions
> with
> the rest of the cluster so that *only* the mon is doing non-cephx
> authentication. The focus now is just to make the first step work,
> though...
>
> sage
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2014-08-21 16:43 ` Matt W. Benjamin [this message]
2014-08-21 16:44 ` Ceph authentication/authorization paradignms Matt W. Benjamin
2014-08-21 17:56 ` Christopher R. Hertel
2014-08-28 17:55 ` Matt W. Benjamin
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2014-08-14 17:10 ` Christopher R. Hertel
2014-08-19 21:57 ` Gregory Farnum
2014-08-20 22:20 ` Christopher R. Hertel
2014-08-21 15:59 ` Gregory Farnum
2014-08-21 16:02 ` Sage Weil
2014-08-21 17:51 ` Christopher R. Hertel
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