From: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>
To: Simon Richter <Simon.Richter@hogyros.de>
Cc: linux-fscrypt@vger.kernel.org, linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org,
linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org,
linux-f2fs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
ceph-devel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] fscrypt: don't use hardware offload Crypto API drivers
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2025 23:32:52 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250625063252.GD8962@sol> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250612062521.GA1838@sol>
On Wed, Jun 11, 2025 at 11:25:21PM -0700, Eric Biggers wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 12, 2025 at 12:59:14AM +0000, Eric Biggers wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 12, 2025 at 09:21:26AM +0900, Simon Richter wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > On 6/12/25 05:58, Eric Biggers wrote:
> > >
> > > > But
> > > > otherwise this style of hardware offload is basically obsolete and has
> > > > been superseded by hardware-accelerated crypto instructions directly on
> > > > the CPU as well as inline storage encryption (UFS/eMMC).
> > >
> > > For desktop, yes, but embedded still has quite a few of these, for example
> > > the STM32 crypto offload engine
>
> By the way, I noticed you specifically mentioned STM32. I'm not sure if you
> looked at the links I had in my commit message, but one of them
> (https://github.com/google/fscryptctl/issues/32) was actually for the STM32
> driver being broken and returning the wrong results, which broke filename
> encryption. The user fixed the issue by disabling the STM32 driver, and they
> seemed okay with that.
>
> That doesn't sound like something useful, IMO. It sounds more like something
> actively harmful to users.
>
> Here's another one I forgot to mention:
> https://github.com/google/fscryptctl/issues/9
>
> I get blamed for these issues, because it's fscrypt that breaks.
Since two people were pushing the STM32 crypto engine in this thread:
I measured decryption throughput on 4 KiB messages on an STM32MP157F-DK2. This
is an embedded evaluation board that includes an STM32 crypto engine and has an
800 MHz Cortex-A7 processor. Cortex-A7 doesn't have AES instructions:
AES-128-CBC-ESSIV:
essiv(stm32-cbc-aes,sha256-arm):
3.1 MB/s
essiv(cbc-aes-neonbs,sha256-arm):
15.5 MB/s
AES-256-XTS:
xts(stm32-ecb-aes):
3.1 MB/s
xts-aes-neonbs:
11.0 MB/s
Adiantum:
adiantum(xchacha12-arm,aes-arm,nhpoly1305-neon):
53.1 MB/s
That was the synchronous throughput. However, submitting multiple requests
asynchronously (which again, fscrypt doesn't actually do) barely helps.
Apparently the STM32 crypto engine has only one hardware queue.
I already strongly suspected that these non-inline crypto engines aren't worth
using. But I didn't realize they are quite this bad. Even with AES on a
Cortex-A7 CPU that lacks AES instructions, the CPU is much faster!
But of course Adiantum is even faster, as it was specifically designed for CPUs
that don't have AES instructions.
- Eric
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-06-25 6:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-06-11 20:58 [PATCH] fscrypt: don't use hardware offload Crypto API drivers Eric Biggers
2025-06-12 0:21 ` Simon Richter
2025-06-12 0:59 ` Eric Biggers
2025-06-12 6:25 ` Eric Biggers
2025-06-12 8:50 ` Giovanni Cabiddu
2025-06-12 15:57 ` Eric Biggers
2025-06-13 1:23 ` Eric Biggers
2025-06-13 11:10 ` Giovanni Cabiddu
2025-06-25 6:32 ` Eric Biggers [this message]
2025-06-25 12:44 ` Theodore Ts'o
2025-06-25 18:38 ` Eric Biggers
2025-06-25 16:29 ` Maxime MERE
2025-06-25 19:17 ` Eric Biggers
2025-06-13 9:01 ` Maxime MERE
2025-06-13 14:42 ` Eric Biggers
2025-06-25 16:29 ` Maxime MERE
2025-06-25 18:57 ` Eric Biggers
2025-06-26 2:36 ` Eric Biggers
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