From: Josh Durgin <josh.durgin@inktank.com>
To: Sage Weil <sweil@redhat.com>,
sjust@redhat.com, jdurgin@redhat.com, yehuda@redhat.com,
dillaman@redhat.com
Cc: zhiqiang.wang@intel.com, ceph-devel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: rados read ordering
Date: Mon, 08 Dec 2014 15:38:48 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <54863688.20202@inktank.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1412080855300.5263@cobra.newdream.net>
On 12/08/2014 09:03 AM, Sage Weil wrote:
> The current RADOS behavior is that reads (on any given object) are always
> processed in the order they are submitted by the client. This causes a
> few headaches for the cache tiering that it would be nice to avoid. It
> also occurs to me that there are likely cases where we could go a lot
> faster by not strictly ordering things. For example, a stat can respond
> more quickly than a large read, and some reads may hit cache while others
> go to disk. This doesn't happen currently because of the (lame) way we do
> reads synchronously, but hope that can change too.
>
> I propose we drop this semantic. If a client wants reads to have a strict
> ordering, they can set the existing RWORDERED flag (which also orders them
> with respect to writes). That's not the most general thing ever, but I'm
> not sure we care about callers who want reads ordered with respect to each
> other but not writes.
>
> The real question is whether there are any users that want/need this
> currently. I can't think of any offhand. In several places we submit
> multiple *writes* and expect them to be strictly ordered (e.g., we
> set a completion on teh last write only). I don't think we do this
> anywhere for reads though...
>
> Josh, Yehuda, Jason--can you think of any in RBD or RGW that would depend
> on this?
Nope, I've thought we should fix this since I found out about it.
prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-12-08 23:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-12-08 17:03 rados read ordering Sage Weil
2014-12-08 17:11 ` Yehuda Sadeh
2014-12-10 0:37 ` Cook, Nigel
2014-12-10 0:43 ` Sage Weil
2014-12-10 1:10 ` Wang, Zhiqiang
2014-12-10 2:26 ` Haomai Wang
2014-12-10 2:51 ` Wang, Zhiqiang
2014-12-10 4:36 ` Cook, Nigel
2014-12-10 5:08 ` Wang, Zhiqiang
2014-12-10 16:07 ` Cook, Nigel
2014-12-10 16:35 ` Sage Weil
2014-12-08 23:38 ` Josh Durgin [this message]
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