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From: Frank Schilder <frans@dtu.dk>
To: Patrick Donnelly <pdonnell@redhat.com>,
	Lokendra Rathour <lokendrarathour@gmail.com>
Cc: Ceph Development <ceph-devel@vger.kernel.org>, dev <dev@ceph.io>,
	ceph-users <ceph-users@ceph.io>
Subject: Re: [ceph-users] Re: [ Ceph MDS MON Config Variables ] Failover Delay issue
Date: Mon, 3 May 2021 17:00:31 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6d07b36589f5493785d036dc4026f214@dtu.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+2bHPaotXm-SK7Pi0WqL1wb4=MD+xvJr4hQGprk897LHt5qCQ@mail.gmail.com>

Following up on this and other comments, there are 2 different time delays. One (1)  is the time it takes from killing an MDS until a stand-by is made an active rank, and (2) the time it takes for the new active rank to restore all client sessions. My experience is that (1) takes close to 0 seconds while (2) can take between 20-30 seconds depending on how busy the clients are; the MDS will go through various states before reaching active. We usually have ca. 1600 client connections to our FS. With fewer clients, MDS fail-over is practically instantaneous. We are using latest mimic.

From what you write, you seem to have a 40 seconds window for (1), which points to a problem different to MON config values. This is supported by your description including a MON election (??? this should never happen). Do you have have services co-located? Which of the times (1) or (2) are you referring to? How many FS clients do you have?

Best regards,
=================
Frank Schilder
AIT Risø Campus
Bygning 109, rum S14

________________________________________
From: Patrick Donnelly <pdonnell@redhat.com>
Sent: 03 May 2021 17:19:37
To: Lokendra Rathour
Cc: Ceph Development; dev; ceph-users
Subject: [ceph-users] Re: [ Ceph MDS MON Config Variables ] Failover Delay issue

On Mon, May 3, 2021 at 6:36 AM Lokendra Rathour
<lokendrarathour@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Team,
> I was setting up the ceph cluster with
>
>    - Node Details:3 Mon,2 MDS, 2 Mgr, 2 RGW
>    - Deployment Type: Active Standby
>    - Testing Mode: Failover of MDS Node
>    - Setup : Octopus (15.2.7)
>    - OS: centos 8.3
>    - hardware: HP
>    - Ram:  128 GB on each Node
>    - OSD: 2 ( 1 tb each)
>    - Operation: Normal I/O with mkdir on every 1 second.
>
> T*est Case: Power-off any active MDS Node for failover to happen*
>
> *Observation:*
> We have observed that whenever an active MDS Node is down it takes around*
> 40 seconds* to activate the standby MDS Node.
> on further checking the logs for the new-handover MDS Node we have seen
> delay on the basis of following inputs:
>
>    1. 10 second delay after which Mon calls for new Monitor election
>       1.  [log]  0 log_channel(cluster) log [INF] : mon.cephnode1 calling
>       monitor election

In the process of killing the active MDS, are you also killing a monitor?

--
Patrick Donnelly, Ph.D.
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Principal Software Engineer
Red Hat Sunnyvale, CA
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      reply	other threads:[~2021-05-03 17:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 3+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <CAJm6b-741TRptPWOqoqEJG6m00auekTkcWUD+z3sxH1-34THgA@mail.gmail.com>
2021-05-03 13:48 ` [ceph-users] [ Ceph MDS MON Config Variables ] Failover Delay issue Olivier AUDRY
2021-05-03 15:19 ` Patrick Donnelly
2021-05-03 17:00   ` Frank Schilder [this message]

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