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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [RFD] cgroup: about multiple hierarchies
Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2012 19:03:06 +0100
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On Thu, 2012-03-01 at 18:19 +0100, Michal Schmidt wrote:
> Dne 23.2.2012 15:13, Peter Zijlstra napsal:
> > My utter disregard for cgroups comes from having to actually implement a
> > controller for them, its a frigging nightmare. The systemd retards
> > mandating all this nonsense for booting a machine is completely bonghit
> > inspired and hasn't made me feel any better about it.
> 
> systemd requires only CONFIG_CGROUPS=y. It does not need any controllers.

And that makes it better how?

> The insults are entirely unnecessary.

I think not, booting a machine should depend on the smallest possible
subset of features. Doing anything else is completely bonkers.

Luckily it looks like the Debian guys made the right decision -- albeit
for the wrong reasons.