From: Simo Sorce <ssorce-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Andy Lutomirski <luto-kltTT9wpgjJwATOyAt5JVQ@public.gmane.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] net: Implement SO_PEERCGROUP
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2014 10:55:34 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1394722534.32465.227.camel@willson.li.ssimo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140313141422.GB18914-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
On Thu, 2014-03-13 at 10:14 -0400, Vivek Goyal wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 02:12:33PM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 2:00 PM, Andy Lutomirski <luto-kltTT9wpgjJwATOyAt5JVQ@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > > On 03/12/2014 01:46 PM, Vivek Goyal wrote:
> > >> Implement SO_PEERCGROUP along the lines of SO_PEERCRED. This returns the
> > >> cgroup of first mounted hierarchy of the task. For the case of client,
> > >> it represents the cgroup of client at the time of opening the connection.
> > >> After that client cgroup might change.
> > >
> > > Even if people decide that sending cgroups over a unix socket is a good
> > > idea, this API has my NAK in the strongest possible sense, for whatever
> > > my NAK is worth.
> > >
> > > IMO SO_PEERCRED is a disaster. Calling send(2) or write(2) should
> > > *never* imply the use of a credential. A program should always have to
> > > *explicitly* request use of a credential. What you want is SCM_CGROUP.
> > >
> > > (I've found privilege escalations before based on this observation, and
> > > I suspect I'll find them again.)
> > >
> > >
> > > Note that I think that you really want SCM_SOMETHING_ELSE and not
> > > SCM_CGROUP, but I don't know what the use case is yet.
> >
> > This might not be quite as awful as I thought. At least you're
> > looking up the cgroup at connection time instead of at send time.
> >
> > OTOH, this is still racy -- the socket could easily outlive the cgroup
> > that created it.
>
> That's a good point. What guarantees that previous cgroup was not
> reassigned to a different container.
>
> What if a process A opens the connection with sssd. Process A passes the
> file descriptor to a different process B in a differnt container.
Stop right here.
If the process passes the fd it is not my problem anymore.
The process can as well just 'proxy' all the information to another
process.
We just care to properly identify the 'original' container, we are not
in the business of detecting malicious behavior. That's something other
mechanism need to protect against (SELinux or other LSMs, normal
permissions, capabilities, etc...).
> Process A exits. Container gets removed from system and new one gets
> launched which uses same cgroup as old one. Now process B sends a new
> request and SSSD will serve it based on policy of newly launched
> container.
>
> This sounds very similar to pid race where socket/connection will outlive
> the pid.
Nope, completely different.
Simo.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-03-13 14:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-03-12 20:46 [PATCH 0/2][V2] net: Implement SO_PEERCGROUP to get cgroup of peer Vivek Goyal
2014-03-12 20:46 ` [PATCH 1/2] cgroup: Provide empty definition of task_cgroup_path() Vivek Goyal
2014-03-12 20:46 ` [PATCH 2/2] net: Implement SO_PEERCGROUP Vivek Goyal
2014-03-12 20:58 ` Cong Wang
[not found] ` <CAHA+R7OrNoa7_J-rOskxgdvkM5gAnQyoFBeCXSziY7XMd-yLNA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-13 13:48 ` Vivek Goyal
[not found] ` <1394657163-7472-3-git-send-email-vgoyal-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-12 21:00 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-03-12 21:12 ` Andy Lutomirski
[not found] ` <CALCETrUTjN=XKwnO62P9roZtLLuk7_9Oi17Mj_Aa2ZFtZc1gVA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-12 21:16 ` Simo Sorce
[not found] ` <1394658983.32465.203.camel-Hs+ccMQdwurzDu64bZtGtWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-12 21:19 ` Andy Lutomirski
[not found] ` <CALCETrU29CpcK4dVRD45BGOD7AVEudADiFxOgFgKWkpFzw07eg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-13 1:17 ` Simo Sorce
[not found] ` <1394673476.32465.215.camel-Hs+ccMQdwurzDu64bZtGtWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-13 1:21 ` Andy Lutomirski
[not found] ` <CALCETrWbCuKfV4zMkZajDOGhGkKduW0C2L7uHv=vtvqhVeAc6w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-13 1:43 ` Simo Sorce
[not found] ` <1394675038.32465.223.camel-Hs+ccMQdwurzDu64bZtGtWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-13 2:12 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-03-13 14:27 ` Vivek Goyal
[not found] ` <20140313142755.GC18914-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-14 23:54 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <CALCETrV7GE0YL1sDDqTUV81rWL9zk2vTR1-VLkR7CfTA-FSrgw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-13 17:51 ` Simo Sorce
2014-03-13 17:55 ` Andy Lutomirski
[not found] ` <CALCETrXWzja6W6y=p9MrtynGZMsrD5KQu0KBK6Bs1dQxnesv2A-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-13 17:57 ` Simo Sorce
[not found] ` <1394733448.32465.249.camel-Hs+ccMQdwurzDu64bZtGtWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-13 18:03 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-03-13 17:58 ` Simo Sorce
2014-03-13 18:01 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-03-13 18:05 ` Tim Hockin
2014-03-13 19:53 ` Vivek Goyal
2014-03-13 19:58 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-03-13 20:06 ` Vivek Goyal
[not found] ` <20140313200649.GN18914-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-13 20:17 ` Vivek Goyal
[not found] ` <20140313201755.GO18914-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-13 20:19 ` Vivek Goyal
2014-03-13 21:21 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-03-14 23:49 ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-03-13 18:02 ` Vivek Goyal
2014-03-13 14:14 ` Vivek Goyal
[not found] ` <20140313141422.GB18914-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-13 14:55 ` Simo Sorce [this message]
[not found] ` <1394722534.32465.227.camel-Hs+ccMQdwurzDu64bZtGtWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-13 15:00 ` Vivek Goyal
[not found] ` <20140313150034.GG18914-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-13 16:33 ` Simo Sorce
2014-03-13 17:25 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-03-13 17:55 ` Simo Sorce
2014-03-13 17:56 ` Tim Hockin
[not found] ` <1394657163-7472-1-git-send-email-vgoyal-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-12 20:56 ` [PATCH 0/2][V2] net: Implement SO_PEERCGROUP to get cgroup of peer Andy Lutomirski
2014-03-12 20:59 ` Simo Sorce
[not found] ` <1394657970.32465.200.camel-Hs+ccMQdwurzDu64bZtGtWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2014-03-12 21:09 ` Andy Lutomirski
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2014-03-12 18:45 [PATCH 0/2] " Vivek Goyal
2014-03-12 18:45 ` [PATCH 2/2] net: Implement SO_PEERCGROUP Vivek Goyal
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