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From: Mike Galbraith <umgwanakikbuti-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] sched: Implement interface for cgroup unified
 hierarchy
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2015 07:08:41 +0100
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To: Tejun Heo <tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Paul Turner <pjt-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>, Peter Zijlstra <peterz-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>, Johannes Weiner <hannes-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>, lizefan-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org, cgroups <cgroups-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>, LKML <linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>, kernel-team <kernel-team-b10kYP2dOMg@public.gmane.org>, Linus Torvalds <torvalds-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>, Andrew Morton <akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>

On Tue, 2015-10-27 at 15:00 +0900, Tejun Heo wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 06:56:42AM +0100, Mike Galbraith wrote:
> > > Well, if you think certain things are being missed, please speak up.
> > > Not in some media campaign way but with technical reasoning and
> > > justifications.
> > 
> > Inserting a middle-man is extremely unlikely to improve performance.
> 
> I'm not following you at all.  Technical reasoning and justifications
> is a middle-man?

No, user <-> systemd or whatever <-> kernel
             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

> I don't think anything productive is likely to come out of this
> conversation.  Let's just end this sub-thread.

Agreed.

	-Mike