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From: Mike Galbraith <umgwanakikbuti-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: Tejun Heo <tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	torvalds-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org,
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	a.p.zijlstra-/NLkJaSkS4VmR6Xm/wNWPw@public.gmane.org,
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	lizefan-hv44wF8Li93QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org,
	hannes-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org,
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Subject: Re: [PATCHSET RFC cgroup/for-4.6] cgroup, sched: implement resource group and PRIO_RGRP
Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2016 18:04:22 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1457802262.3628.129.camel@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1457764019.10402.72.camel-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>

On Sat, 2016-03-12 at 07:26 +0100, Mike Galbraith wrote:
> On Fri, 2016-03-11 at 10:41 -0500, Tejun Heo wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > This patchset extends cgroup v2 to support rgroup (resource group) for
> > in-process hierarchical resource control and implements PRIO_RGRP for
> > setpriority(2) on top to allow in-process hierarchical CPU cycle
> > control in a seamless way.
> > 
> > cgroup v1 allowed putting threads of a process in different cgroups
> > which enabled ad-hoc in-process resource control of some resources.

BTW, within the scheduler, "process" does not exist.  A high level
composite entity is what we currently aggregate from arbitrary
individual entities, a.k.a threads.  Whether an individual entity be an
un-threaded "process" bash, a thread of "process" oracle, or one of
"process!?!" kernel is irrelevant.  What entity aggregation has to do
with "process" eludes me completely.

What's ad-hoc or unusual about a thread pool servicing an arbitrary
number of customers using cgroup bean accounting?  Job arrives from
customer, worker is dispatched to customer workshop (cgroup), it does
whatever on behest of customer, sends bean count off to the billing
department, and returns to the break room.  What's so annoying about
using bean counters for.. counting beans that you want to forbid it?

	-Mike

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-03-12 17:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-03-11 15:41 [PATCHSET RFC cgroup/for-4.6] cgroup, sched: implement resource group and PRIO_RGRP Tejun Heo
2016-03-11 15:41 ` [PATCH 02/10] cgroup: un-inline cgroup_path() and friends Tejun Heo
     [not found] ` <1457710888-31182-1-git-send-email-tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2016-03-11 15:41   ` [PATCH 01/10] cgroup: introduce cgroup_[un]lock() Tejun Heo
2016-03-11 15:41   ` [PATCH 03/10] cgroup: introduce CGRP_MIGRATE_* flags Tejun Heo
2016-03-11 15:41   ` [PATCH 05/10] cgroup, fork: add @new_rgrp_cset[p] and @clone_flags to cgroup fork callbacks Tejun Heo
2016-03-11 15:41   ` [PATCH 07/10] cgroup: introduce resource group Tejun Heo
2016-03-11 15:41   ` [PATCH 08/10] cgroup: implement rgroup control mask handling Tejun Heo
2016-03-11 15:41   ` [PATCH 10/10] cgroup, sched: implement PRIO_RGRP for {set|get}priority() Tejun Heo
2016-03-12  6:26   ` [PATCHSET RFC cgroup/for-4.6] cgroup, sched: implement resource group and PRIO_RGRP Mike Galbraith
     [not found]     ` <1457764019.10402.72.camel-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-03-12 17:04       ` Mike Galbraith [this message]
     [not found]         ` <1457802262.3628.129.camel-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-03-12 17:13           ` cgroup NAKs ignored? " Ingo Molnar
     [not found]             ` <20160312171318.GD1108-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-03-13 14:42               ` Tejun Heo
2016-03-13 15:00       ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]         ` <20160313150012.GB13405-piEFEHQLUPpN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2016-03-13 17:40           ` Mike Galbraith
     [not found]             ` <1457890835.3859.72.camel-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-07  0:00               ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                 ` <20160407000034.GL24661-piEFEHQLUPpN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-07  3:26                   ` Mike Galbraith
2016-03-14  2:23           ` Mike Galbraith
2016-03-14 11:30   ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]     ` <20160314113013.GM6344-ndre7Fmf5hadTX5a5knrm8zTDFooKrT+cvkQGrU6aU0@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-06 15:58       ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]         ` <20160406155830.GI24661-piEFEHQLUPpN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-07  6:45           ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]             ` <20160407064549.GH3430-ndre7Fmf5hadTX5a5knrm8zTDFooKrT+cvkQGrU6aU0@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-07  7:35               ` Johannes Weiner
     [not found]                 ` <20160407073547.GA12560-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-07  8:05                   ` Mike Galbraith
2016-04-07  8:08                   ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]                     ` <20160407080833.GK3430-ndre7Fmf5hadTX5a5knrm8zTDFooKrT+cvkQGrU6aU0@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-07  9:28                       ` Johannes Weiner
     [not found]                         ` <20160407092824.GA13839-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-07 10:42                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-04-07 19:45                       ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                         ` <20160407194555.GI7822-qYNAdHglDFBN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-07 20:25                           ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]                             ` <20160407202542.GD3448-ndre7Fmf5hadTX5a5knrm8zTDFooKrT+cvkQGrU6aU0@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-08 20:11                               ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                                 ` <20160408201135.GO24661-piEFEHQLUPpN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-09  6:16                                   ` Mike Galbraith
2016-04-09 13:39                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]                                     ` <20160409133917.GV3448-ndre7Fmf5hadTX5a5knrm8zTDFooKrT+cvkQGrU6aU0@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-12 22:29                                       ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                                         ` <20160412222915.GT24661-piEFEHQLUPpN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-13  7:43                                           ` Mike Galbraith
2016-04-13 15:59                                             ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                                               ` <20160413155952.GU24661-piEFEHQLUPpN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-13 19:15                                                 ` Mike Galbraith
2016-04-14  6:07                                               ` Mike Galbraith
     [not found]                                                 ` <1460614057.5100.150.camel-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-14 19:57                                                   ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]                                                     ` <20160414195748.GK7822-qYNAdHglDFBN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-15  2:42                                                       ` Mike Galbraith
2016-04-09 16:02                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-04-07  8:28                   ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]                     ` <20160407082810.GN3430-ndre7Fmf5hadTX5a5knrm8zTDFooKrT+cvkQGrU6aU0@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-07 19:04                       ` Johannes Weiner
     [not found]                         ` <20160407190424.GA20407-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-07 19:31                           ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]                             ` <20160407193127.GB3448-ndre7Fmf5hadTX5a5knrm8zTDFooKrT+cvkQGrU6aU0@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-07 20:23                               ` Johannes Weiner
     [not found]                                 ` <20160407202344.GA22509-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-08  3:13                                   ` Mike Galbraith
2016-03-15 17:21   ` Michal Hocko
     [not found]     ` <20160315172136.GA6114-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-06 21:53       ` Tejun Heo
     [not found]         ` <20160406215307.GJ24661-piEFEHQLUPpN0TnZuCh8vA@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-07  6:40           ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-11 15:41 ` [PATCH 04/10] signal: make put_signal_struct() public Tejun Heo
2016-03-11 15:41 ` [PATCH 06/10] cgroup, fork: add @child and @clone_flags to threadgroup_change_begin/end() Tejun Heo
2016-03-11 15:41 ` [PATCH 09/10] cgroup: implement rgroup subtree migration Tejun Heo

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