From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley-d9PhHud1JfjCXq6kfMZ53/egYHeGw8Jk@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 0/9] Make containers kernel objects
Date: Tue, 23 May 2017 08:44:27 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1495554267.27369.9.camel@HansenPartnership.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87bmqjmwl5.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
On Tue, 2017-05-23 at 10:17 -0500, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> David Howells <dhowells-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> writes:
> > Eric W. Biederman <ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > > It does solve this in userspace rather simply.
> >
> > Ummm... How? The kernel DNS resolver is not namespace aware.
>
> But it works fine if called in the proper context and we have a
> defacto standard for where to put all of the files (the tricky part)
> if you are dealing with multiple network namespaces simultaneously.
I think you're missing each other's points slightly.
What David is pointing out is that the kernel has a DNS cache
(net/dns_resolver/) it can do name to IP translations, but isn't
namespaced. Once it has one entry all containers would see it if they
cause a lookup to go through the kernel cache, so going through the
cache you can't have a name resolving to different IP addresses on a
per container basis.
I think Eric's point is that if you need the same DNS names resolving
to different IP addresses on a per container basis, you can do this in
userspace today but you have to disable the in-kernel DNS cache.
James
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-05-23 15:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-05-22 16:22 [RFC][PATCH 0/9] Make containers kernel objects David Howells
2017-05-22 16:22 ` [PATCH 1/9] containers: Rename linux/container.h to linux/container_dev.h David Howells
2017-05-22 16:22 ` [PATCH 2/9] Implement containers as kernel objects David Howells
[not found] ` <149547016213.10599.1969443294414531853.stgit-S6HVgzuS8uM4Awkfq6JHfwNdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-14 5:47 ` Richard Guy Briggs
2017-08-16 22:21 ` Paul Moore
[not found] ` <CAHC9VhRgPRa7KeMt8G700aeFvqVYc0gMx__82K31TYY6oQQqTw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-18 8:03 ` Richard Guy Briggs
[not found] ` <20170818080300.GQ7187-bcJWsdo4jJjeVoXN4CMphl7TgLCtbB0G@public.gmane.org>
2017-09-06 14:03 ` Serge E. Hallyn
[not found] ` <20170906140341.GA8729-7LNsyQBKDXoIagZqoN9o3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-09-14 5:47 ` Richard Guy Briggs
2017-09-08 20:02 ` Paul Moore
2017-05-22 16:23 ` [PATCH 5/9] Open a socket inside a container David Howells
2017-05-22 16:23 ` [PATCH 6/9] Allow fs syscall dfd arguments to take a container fd David Howells
2017-05-22 16:23 ` [PATCH 7/9] Make fsopen() able to initiate mounting into a container David Howells
2017-05-22 16:23 ` [PATCH 9/9] Sample program for driving container objects David Howells
[not found] ` <149547014649.10599.12025037906646164347.stgit-S6HVgzuS8uM4Awkfq6JHfwNdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-22 16:22 ` [PATCH 3/9] Provide /proc/containers David Howells
2017-05-22 16:22 ` [PATCH 4/9] Allow processes to be forked and upcalled into a container David Howells
2017-05-22 16:23 ` [PATCH 8/9] Honour CONTAINER_NEW_EMPTY_FS_NS David Howells
2017-05-22 16:53 ` [RFC][PATCH 0/9] Make containers kernel objects James Bottomley
[not found] ` <1495472039.2757.19.camel-d9PhHud1JfjCXq6kfMZ53/egYHeGw8Jk@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-22 17:14 ` Aleksa Sarai
2017-05-22 17:27 ` Jessica Frazelle
2017-05-22 18:34 ` Jeff Layton
[not found] ` <1495478092.2816.17.camel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-22 19:21 ` James Bottomley
2017-05-22 22:14 ` Jeff Layton
[not found] ` <1495480860.9050.18.camel-d9PhHud1JfjCXq6kfMZ53/egYHeGw8Jk@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-23 10:35 ` Ian Kent
2017-05-23 9:38 ` Ian Kent
2017-05-23 13:52 ` David Howells
[not found] ` <32556.1495547529-S6HVgzuS8uM4Awkfq6JHfwNdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-23 15:02 ` James Bottomley
2017-05-23 15:23 ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-05-23 14:53 ` David Howells
[not found] ` <2446.1495551216-S6HVgzuS8uM4Awkfq6JHfwNdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-23 14:56 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <87zie3mxkc.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-23 15:14 ` David Howells
[not found] ` <2961.1495552481-S6HVgzuS8uM4Awkfq6JHfwNdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-23 15:17 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <87bmqjmwl5.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-23 15:44 ` James Bottomley [this message]
[not found] ` <1495554267.27369.9.camel-d9PhHud1JfjCXq6kfMZ53/egYHeGw8Jk@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-23 16:36 ` David Howells
[not found] ` <3860.1495557363-S6HVgzuS8uM4Awkfq6JHfwNdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-24 8:26 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <87k256ek3e.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-24 9:16 ` Ian Kent
2017-05-22 17:11 ` Jessica Frazelle
2017-05-22 19:04 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <87lgpoww67.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-22 22:22 ` Jeff Layton
[not found] ` <1495491733.25946.3.camel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-23 12:54 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <874lwbraxh.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-23 14:27 ` Jeff Layton
2017-05-23 14:30 ` Djalal Harouni
[not found] ` <CAEiveUcbmm5m4=11ZppxAWppeoFWUBFpLC7dAZRuBCTFHR548g-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-23 14:54 ` Colin Walters
[not found] ` <1495551292.2742620.985957224.3FCF254A-2RFepEojUI2N1INw9kWLP6GC3tUn3ZHUQQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-23 15:31 ` Jeff Layton
[not found] ` <1495553491.2946.16.camel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-23 15:35 ` Colin Walters
2017-05-23 15:30 ` David Howells
2017-05-23 14:23 ` Djalal Harouni
2017-05-27 17:45 ` Trond Myklebust
[not found] ` <1495907132.4591.3.camel-7I+n7zu2hftEKMMhf/gKZA@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-27 19:10 ` James Bottomley
2017-05-30 1:03 ` Ian Kent
2017-05-23 10:09 ` Ian Kent
2017-05-23 15:33 ` Eric W. Biederman
[not found] ` <CAEk6tEyjk4=rHfsJUZ7dYPpdSa-=QX6QAm8ni8-ySpHmjUMwTg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-23 15:12 ` David Howells
2017-05-23 16:13 ` David Howells
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