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From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley-d9PhHud1JfjCXq6kfMZ53/egYHeGw8Jk@public.gmane.org>
To: "Eric W. Biederman"
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	David Howells <dhowells-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 0/9] Make containers kernel objects
Date: Tue, 23 May 2017 08:44:27 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1495554267.27369.9.camel@HansenPartnership.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87bmqjmwl5.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>

On Tue, 2017-05-23 at 10:17 -0500, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> David Howells <dhowells-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> writes:
> > Eric W. Biederman <ebiederm-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > > It does solve this in userspace rather simply.
> > 
> > Ummm...  How?  The kernel DNS resolver is not namespace aware.
> 
> But it works fine if called in the proper context and we have a 
> defacto standard for where to put all of the files (the tricky part) 
> if you are dealing with multiple network namespaces simultaneously.

I think you're missing each other's points slightly.

What David is pointing out is that the kernel has a DNS cache
(net/dns_resolver/) it can do name to IP translations, but isn't
namespaced.  Once it has one entry all containers would see it if they
cause a lookup to go through the kernel cache, so going through the
cache you can't have a name resolving to different IP addresses on a
per container basis.

I think Eric's point is that if you need the same DNS names resolving
to different IP addresses on a per container basis, you can do this in
userspace today but you have to disable the in-kernel DNS cache.

James


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-05-23 15:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-05-22 16:22 [RFC][PATCH 0/9] Make containers kernel objects David Howells
2017-05-22 16:22 ` [PATCH 1/9] containers: Rename linux/container.h to linux/container_dev.h David Howells
2017-05-22 16:22 ` [PATCH 2/9] Implement containers as kernel objects David Howells
     [not found]   ` <149547016213.10599.1969443294414531853.stgit-S6HVgzuS8uM4Awkfq6JHfwNdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-14  5:47     ` Richard Guy Briggs
2017-08-16 22:21       ` Paul Moore
     [not found]         ` <CAHC9VhRgPRa7KeMt8G700aeFvqVYc0gMx__82K31TYY6oQQqTw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-18  8:03           ` Richard Guy Briggs
     [not found]             ` <20170818080300.GQ7187-bcJWsdo4jJjeVoXN4CMphl7TgLCtbB0G@public.gmane.org>
2017-09-06 14:03               ` Serge E. Hallyn
     [not found]                 ` <20170906140341.GA8729-7LNsyQBKDXoIagZqoN9o3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-09-14  5:47                   ` Richard Guy Briggs
2017-09-08 20:02             ` Paul Moore
2017-05-22 16:23 ` [PATCH 5/9] Open a socket inside a container David Howells
2017-05-22 16:23 ` [PATCH 6/9] Allow fs syscall dfd arguments to take a container fd David Howells
2017-05-22 16:23 ` [PATCH 7/9] Make fsopen() able to initiate mounting into a container David Howells
2017-05-22 16:23 ` [PATCH 9/9] Sample program for driving container objects David Howells
     [not found] ` <149547014649.10599.12025037906646164347.stgit-S6HVgzuS8uM4Awkfq6JHfwNdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-22 16:22   ` [PATCH 3/9] Provide /proc/containers David Howells
2017-05-22 16:22   ` [PATCH 4/9] Allow processes to be forked and upcalled into a container David Howells
2017-05-22 16:23   ` [PATCH 8/9] Honour CONTAINER_NEW_EMPTY_FS_NS David Howells
2017-05-22 16:53   ` [RFC][PATCH 0/9] Make containers kernel objects James Bottomley
     [not found]     ` <1495472039.2757.19.camel-d9PhHud1JfjCXq6kfMZ53/egYHeGw8Jk@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-22 17:14       ` Aleksa Sarai
2017-05-22 17:27       ` Jessica Frazelle
2017-05-22 18:34       ` Jeff Layton
     [not found]         ` <1495478092.2816.17.camel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-22 19:21           ` James Bottomley
2017-05-22 22:14             ` Jeff Layton
     [not found]             ` <1495480860.9050.18.camel-d9PhHud1JfjCXq6kfMZ53/egYHeGw8Jk@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-23 10:35               ` Ian Kent
2017-05-23  9:38       ` Ian Kent
2017-05-23 13:52       ` David Howells
     [not found]         ` <32556.1495547529-S6HVgzuS8uM4Awkfq6JHfwNdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-23 15:02           ` James Bottomley
2017-05-23 15:23         ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-05-23 14:53     ` David Howells
     [not found]       ` <2446.1495551216-S6HVgzuS8uM4Awkfq6JHfwNdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-23 14:56         ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]       ` <87zie3mxkc.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-23 15:14         ` David Howells
     [not found]           ` <2961.1495552481-S6HVgzuS8uM4Awkfq6JHfwNdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-23 15:17             ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]               ` <87bmqjmwl5.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-23 15:44                 ` James Bottomley [this message]
     [not found]               ` <1495554267.27369.9.camel-d9PhHud1JfjCXq6kfMZ53/egYHeGw8Jk@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-23 16:36                 ` David Howells
     [not found]                   ` <3860.1495557363-S6HVgzuS8uM4Awkfq6JHfwNdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-24  8:26                     ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                       ` <87k256ek3e.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-24  9:16                         ` Ian Kent
2017-05-22 17:11   ` Jessica Frazelle
2017-05-22 19:04   ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]     ` <87lgpoww67.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-22 22:22       ` Jeff Layton
     [not found]         ` <1495491733.25946.3.camel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-23 12:54           ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]             ` <874lwbraxh.fsf-aS9lmoZGLiVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-23 14:27               ` Jeff Layton
2017-05-23 14:30               ` Djalal Harouni
     [not found]                 ` <CAEiveUcbmm5m4=11ZppxAWppeoFWUBFpLC7dAZRuBCTFHR548g-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-23 14:54                   ` Colin Walters
     [not found]                     ` <1495551292.2742620.985957224.3FCF254A-2RFepEojUI2N1INw9kWLP6GC3tUn3ZHUQQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-23 15:31                       ` Jeff Layton
     [not found]                         ` <1495553491.2946.16.camel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-23 15:35                           ` Colin Walters
2017-05-23 15:30                 ` David Howells
2017-05-23 14:23           ` Djalal Harouni
2017-05-27 17:45     ` Trond Myklebust
     [not found]       ` <1495907132.4591.3.camel-7I+n7zu2hftEKMMhf/gKZA@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-27 19:10         ` James Bottomley
2017-05-30  1:03         ` Ian Kent
2017-05-23 10:09   ` Ian Kent
2017-05-23 15:33   ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found] ` <CAEk6tEyjk4=rHfsJUZ7dYPpdSa-=QX6QAm8ni8-ySpHmjUMwTg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-05-23 15:12   ` David Howells
2017-05-23 16:13 ` David Howells

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