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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Mandeep Singh Baines <msb-F7+t8E8rja9g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Frederic Weisbecker
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	Tejun Heo <tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
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	Andrew Morton
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	"Paul E. McKenney"
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	Paul Menage <paul-inf54ven1CmVyaH7bEyXVA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: Q: cgroup: Questions about possible issues in cgroup locking
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 18:07:28 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120112170728.GA25717@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120112003102.GB9511-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>

Hi Mandeep,

On 01/11, Mandeep Singh Baines wrote:
> > >
> > > #define while_each_thread(g, t, o) \
> > > 	while (t->group_leader == o && (t = next_thread(t)) != g)
> > >
> > > Where o should have the value of g->group_leader.
> >
> > I don't understand how this helps... and how this can work even
> > ignoring the barriers.
> >
> > OK, we have the main thream M and the sub-thread T, we are doing
> >
> > 	do {
> > 		do_something(t);
> > 	} while_each_thread(M, t, M);
> >
> > why we can't miss T if it does exec?
> >
>
> So for:
>
> struct task *M; /* assuming this is passed in to us */
> struct task *L = M->group_leader;

L == M

> do {
> 	do_something(T);
> } while_each_thread(M, T, L);
>
> Here is my thinking.
>
> If some thread K does exec, you won't miss it because:
>
> 1) Ignoring the group_leader check, you'll visit K just by following
>    next_thread(). That's the case today and is what you except
>    when iterating over an rcu_list.
> 2) (t->group_leader == o) will fail iff t is the exec thread.
>    Since we test t->group_leader before re-assigning it (t=next_thread()),
>    the test will fail only after visiting the exec thread. So you'll
>    visit the exec thread and then terminate the loop.

Still can't understand... Lets look at this trivial example again.

We start from the main thread M, it is ->group_leader. There is
another thread T in this thread group. We are doing

	OLD = M;

	t = M;
	do {
		do_smth(t);
	}
	while (t->group_leader == OLD && ((t = next_thread(t)) != M);

The first iteration does do_smth(M).

T calls de_thread() and, in particular, it does M->group_leader = T
(see "leader->group_leader = tsk" in de_thread).

after that t->group_leader == OLD fails. t == M, its group_leader == T.
do_smth(T) won't be called.

No?

Oleg.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-01-12 17:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-12-21  3:43 Q: cgroup: Questions about possible issues in cgroup locking Frederic Weisbecker
2011-12-21 13:08 ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]   ` <20111221130848.GA19679-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2011-12-21 17:56     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-12-21 19:01       ` Mandeep Singh Baines
     [not found]         ` <20111221190102.GE13529-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2011-12-21 19:08           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-12-21 19:24             ` Mandeep Singh Baines
     [not found]               ` <20111221192413.GF13529-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2011-12-21 20:04                 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-12-22 15:30                   ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                     ` <20111222153004.GA30522-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-01-04 19:36                       ` Mandeep Singh Baines
     [not found]                         ` <20120104193614.GF9511-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-01-06 15:23                           ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                             ` <20120106152356.GA23995-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-01-06 18:25                               ` Mandeep Singh Baines
     [not found]                                 ` <20120106182535.GJ9511-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-01-11 16:07                                   ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                                     ` <20120111160730.GA24556-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-01-12  0:31                                       ` Mandeep Singh Baines
     [not found]                                         ` <20120112003102.GB9511-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-01-12 17:07                                           ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
     [not found]                                             ` <20120112170728.GA25717-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-01-12 17:57                                               ` Mandeep Singh Baines
     [not found]                                                 ` <20120112175725.GD9511-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-01-13 15:20                                                   ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                                                     ` <20120113152010.GA19215-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-01-13 18:27                                                       ` Mandeep Singh Baines
     [not found]                                                         ` <20120113182750.GD18166-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-01-14 17:36                                                           ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                                                             ` <20120114173648.GA32543-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-01-18 23:17                                                               ` Mandeep Singh Baines
2012-01-19 15:45                                                                 ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                                                                   ` <20120119154522.GA14058-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-01-19 18:18                                                                     ` Mandeep Singh Baines
     [not found]                                                                       ` <20120119181803.GU18166-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-01-20 15:06                                                                         ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-03-20 19:34                                                                     ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]                                                                       ` <20120320193414.GA21277-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-21 18:59                                                                         ` Mandeep Singh Baines
     [not found]                                                                           ` <20120321185955.GK27051-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-23 17:51                                                                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2011-12-21 17:59     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-12-21 18:11       ` Oleg Nesterov
     [not found]         ` <20111221181101.GA3092-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2011-12-21 18:23           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-02-01 16:28     ` Frederic Weisbecker

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