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Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/10] cgroups: Task counter subsystem v8
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 11:51:07 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120201115107.93e11471.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120201184959.GH6731-oHC15RC7JGTpAmv0O++HtFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
On Wed, 1 Feb 2012 19:50:01 +0100
Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 01, 2012 at 08:31:26AM -0800, Tejun Heo wrote:
> > On Wed, Feb 01, 2012 at 04:37:40AM +0100, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> > > Changes In this version:
> > >
> > > - Split 32/64 bits version of res_counter_write_u64() [1/10]
> > > Courtesy of Kirill A. Shutemov
> > >
> > > - Added Kirill's ack [8/10]
> > >
> > > - Added selftests [9/10], [10/10]
> > >
> > > Please consider for merging. At least two users want this feature:
> >
> > Has there been further discussion about this approach? IIRC, we
> > weren't sure whether this should be merged.
>
> The doubts I have noticed were:
>
> Q: Can't we rather focus on a global solution to fight forkbombs?
>
> If we can find a reliable solution that works in any case and that
> prevent from any forkbomb to impact the rest of the system then it
> may be an acceptable solution. But I'm not aware of such feature.
>
> Besides, another point in having this task counter is that we
> have a per container limit. Assuming all containers are running under
> the same user, we can protect against a container starving all others
> with a massive amount of processes close to the NR_PROC rlimit.
>
> Q: Can/should we implement a limitation on the number of "fork" as well?
> (as in https://lkml.org/lkml/2011/11/3/233 )
>
> I'm still not sure about why such a thing is needed. Is it really something we
> want? Why can't the task counter be used instead?
>
> I need more details from the author of this patch. But I doubt we can merge
> both subsystems, they have pretty different semantics.
What I struggle with is "is this feature useful enough to warrant
merging it"?
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Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-02-01 3:37 [PATCH 00/10] cgroups: Task counter subsystem v8 Frederic Weisbecker
[not found] ` <1328067470-5980-1-git-send-email-fweisbec-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-01 3:37 ` [PATCH 01/10] cgroups: add res_counter_write_u64() API Frederic Weisbecker
[not found] ` <1328067470-5980-2-git-send-email-fweisbec-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-02 12:33 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
[not found] ` <20120202123322.GA12748-oKw7cIdHH8eLwutG50LtGA@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-02 13:56 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-02-01 3:37 ` [PATCH 02/10] cgroups: new resource counter inheritance API Frederic Weisbecker
2012-02-01 3:37 ` [PATCH 03/10] cgroups: ability to stop res charge propagation on bounded ancestor Frederic Weisbecker
2012-02-01 3:37 ` [PATCH 04/10] cgroups: add res counter common ancestor searching Frederic Weisbecker
2012-02-01 3:37 ` [PATCH 05/10] res_counter: allow charge failure pointer to be null Frederic Weisbecker
2012-02-01 3:37 ` [PATCH 06/10] cgroups: pull up res counter charge failure interpretation to caller Frederic Weisbecker
2012-02-01 3:37 ` [PATCH 07/10] cgroups: allow subsystems to cancel a fork Frederic Weisbecker
2012-02-01 3:37 ` [PATCH 08/10] cgroups: Add a task counter subsystem Frederic Weisbecker
2012-02-01 3:37 ` [PATCH 09/10] selftests: Enter each directories before executing selftests Frederic Weisbecker
2012-02-01 3:37 ` [PATCH 10/10] selftests: Add a new task counter selftest Frederic Weisbecker
2012-02-01 16:31 ` [PATCH 00/10] cgroups: Task counter subsystem v8 Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <20120201163126.GA19837-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-01 18:50 ` Frederic Weisbecker
[not found] ` <20120201184959.GH6731-oHC15RC7JGTpAmv0O++HtFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-01 19:51 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
[not found] ` <20120201115107.93e11471.akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-02 14:50 ` Frederic Weisbecker
[not found] ` <20120202145000.GC9071-oHC15RC7JGTpAmv0O++HtFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2012-02-16 15:31 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-03-01 22:53 ` Daniel Lezcano
[not found] ` <4F4FFDE4.8050908-GANU6spQydw@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-05 3:21 ` Frederic Weisbecker
[not found] ` <20120305032130.GD18143-oHC15RC7JGTpAmv0O++HtFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-05 16:26 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <20120305162652.GO22536-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-05 16:27 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <20120305162739.GP22536-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2012-03-05 16:48 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2012-03-05 16:44 ` Rik van Riel
2013-04-01 18:43 ` Tim Hockin
[not found] ` <CAAAKZwv9=NFmt6xj1KF2va1i6=UCvka0YkmdOY9JNUMHDOWpGw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-01 18:46 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <20130401184617.GB31435-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-01 20:09 ` Tim Hockin
[not found] ` <CAAAKZwvemKDLeuKr6wWMUSVczkRVDZKSzYrXXEMcZ8qvcFR0zQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-01 20:29 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <20130401202943.GC31435-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-01 21:02 ` Tim Hockin
[not found] ` <CAAAKZwuZwN68vtk1qO08GXB_OnQNVtqqp+v_NQfP27W0P_aWZw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-01 22:03 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <20130401220309.GA2487-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-01 22:20 ` Tim Hockin
[not found] ` <CAAAKZwuev7Y58ZQNtG+XdFRt0=NedD7zbYTAZbJ95ahBKLVhKA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-01 22:35 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <20130401223500.GB2487-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-01 22:57 ` Tim Hockin
[not found] ` <CAAAKZwvdMUAZ+N5d-cdCJbKUq=t9M6BbCxzOTWnVQQBrg55vhw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-01 23:18 ` Tejun Heo
[not found] ` <20130401231824.GC2487-Gd/HAXX7CRxy/B6EtB590w@public.gmane.org>
2013-04-02 0:07 ` Tim Hockin
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