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From: Andrew Morton <akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
To: Johannes Weiner <hannes-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Michal Hocko <mhocko-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
	<kamezawa.hiroyu-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>,
	cgroups-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-mm-Bw31MaZKKs3YtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [patch 6/6] mm: memcg: print statistics from live counters
Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 16:01:31 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120516160131.fecb5ddf.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1337018451-27359-7-git-send-email-hannes-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>

On Mon, 14 May 2012 20:00:51 +0200
Johannes Weiner <hannes-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org> wrote:

> Directly print statistics and event counters instead of going through
> an intermediate accumulation stage into a separate array, which used
> to require defining statistic items in more than one place.
> 
> ...
>
> -static const char *memcg_stat_strings[NR_MCS_STAT] = {
> -	"cache",
> -	"rss",
> -	"mapped_file",

Bah humbug, who went and called this mapped_file?

This stat is derived from MEM_CGROUP_STAT_FILE_MAPPED.  But if we
rename MEM_CGROUP_STAT_FILE_MAPPED to MEM_CGROUP_STAT_MAPPED_FILE then
we also need to rename the non-memcg NR_FILE_MAPPED.  And we can't
change the text to "file_mapped" because it's ABI.

> -	"mlock",
> -	"swap",

And "swap" is derived from MEM_CGROUP_STAT_SWAPOUT.  We could rename
that to MEM_CGROUP_STAT_SWAP without trouble.

But both are poor names.  There are two concepts here: a) swapout
events (ie: swap writeout initiation) and b) swapspace usage.  Type a)
only ever counts up, whereas type b) counts up and down.

MEM_CGROUP_STAT_SWAPOUT is actually of type b), but "swapout" is a
misleading term, because it refers to type a) events.

And the human-displayed "swap" is useless because it can refer to
either type a) or type b) events.  These should be called "swapped" and
MEM_CGROUP_STAT_SWAPPED.  But we can't change the userspace interface.

argh, I hate you all!

  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-05-16 23:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-05-14 18:00 [patch 0/6] mm: memcg: statistics implementation cleanups Johannes Weiner
2012-05-14 18:00 ` [patch 2/6] mm: memcg: convert numa stat to read_seq_string interface Johannes Weiner
     [not found]   ` <1337018451-27359-3-git-send-email-hannes-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-15 14:43     ` Michal Hocko
2012-05-14 18:00 ` [patch 3/6] mm: memcg: print statistics directly to seq_file Johannes Weiner
     [not found]   ` <1337018451-27359-4-git-send-email-hannes-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-15 14:46     ` Michal Hocko
2012-05-14 18:00 ` [patch 4/6] mm: memcg: keep ratelimit counter separate from event counters Johannes Weiner
2012-05-15 14:58   ` Michal Hocko
2012-05-14 18:00 ` [patch 5/6] mm: memcg: group swapped-out statistics counter logically Johannes Weiner
2012-05-15 15:04   ` Michal Hocko
2012-05-14 18:00 ` [patch 6/6] mm: memcg: print statistics from live counters Johannes Weiner
     [not found]   ` <1337018451-27359-7-git-send-email-hannes-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-15 15:27     ` Michal Hocko
2012-05-16 23:01     ` Andrew Morton [this message]
     [not found]       ` <20120516160131.fecb5ddf.akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-17  0:01         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
     [not found]           ` <4FB43FDB.6050300-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-17 10:56             ` Glauber Costa
     [not found] ` <1337018451-27359-1-git-send-email-hannes-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-14 18:00   ` [patch 1/6] mm: memcg: remove obsolete statistics array boundary enum item Johannes Weiner
     [not found]     ` <1337018451-27359-2-git-send-email-hannes-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-15 14:14       ` Michal Hocko
2012-05-15  0:19   ` [patch 0/6] mm: memcg: statistics implementation cleanups KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2012-05-15 11:03     ` Johannes Weiner
     [not found]       ` <20120515110302.GH1406-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>
2012-05-16  0:01         ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki

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